[CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: "Donaldson, Alasdair" <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:57:37 +0000
I bet it will work just as perfectly as the crush system does.
From: Stephen Scheidel [mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 05:51 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
Projectiles in tekken ............ the invincible moves now make a lot more
sense.
On 12 December 2013 07:47, Stephen Scheidel
<gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
*watches trailer again just because of boobs*
On 12 December 2013 07:37, eccomancer
<eccomancer@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:eccomancer@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
If you watch the trailer for Eliza, her boobs actually get bigger... maybe when
she bites you and sucks your blood it has some impact on those balloons- see
her size shen she starts around and when she wins.
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From: Di Lhong
Date:12/12/2013 17:32 (GMT+02:00)
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
I won't play her. Because she has projectiles...also she's pretty similar to
Alisa...guess that's why she's called Eliza...
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Manase Zote
<bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
They are definitely prepping for Tekken X Street fighter with Tekken revolution.
Invincible moves+fireball zoning :)
I like it, she is a true troll character and Di's type too. lol
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Di Lhong
<numotd@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:numotd@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Hadoken from Tekken:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ_Gu4iokJE&feature=youtu.be
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> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair
> <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> Hey Lb. You do know that Kahn beat HM Titan a while go, right?
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>> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>> On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
>> Sent: 12 December 2013 10:31 AM
>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>
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>> I watchd some hakumen footage. He has changed and is harder nw than in
>> cse. Bt due to his OD he is capable of reverse perfect easily, too poonage.
>> Cnt wait to beat khan.
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:28:45 +0200
>> Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Dat zoning. Bring on the Hadoukens!
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>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:17 AM, lindsey kiviets
>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
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>> http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/dec/11/eliza-revealed-tekken-revolution-female-vampire-character/
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>> i see preparations are in place for tekken x sf
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>> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 21:43:56 +0200
>> Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
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>> Generally, in SF the block/hit stun is the same no matter which one of the
>> active frames hit. But, after it connects, the rest of the active frames
>> are converted into recovery frames. So a move that hits on the first frame
>> causes the same block/hit stun as if it hit on the last active frame.
>> However, if it hits on the last frame, there are no more active frames to
>> convert into recovery frames, so that gets added to the block/hit advantage.
>>
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>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Stephen Scheidel
>> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
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>> They exist in a few moves but only by + or - 1 frame.
>>
>> (certain moves being a frame quicker up close)
>>
>> Not even sure about the new Tekken wrt this.
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>> Most of the time if a move is blocked the frames will be the same
>> regardless of range.
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>> Meaties exist in the game mostly by just spacing a move to make it hit
>> deep or shallow to have different spacing after block.
>>
>> Pretty sure they have a system in place to keep the frames on block the
>> same regardless.
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>>
>> In SF how do they occur ? by overlapping active frames with recovery
>> frames ?
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>> On 11 December 2013 07:58, Ilitirit Sama
>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> I'm curious about how 3D games like Tekken work. Meaties should
>> theoretically exist (eg. when an opponent runs into an active attack), but I
>> suspect that Namco might adjust the frame advantage to compensate.
>> Shouldn't be too hard to test I reckon.
>>
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>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Stephen Scheidel
>> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
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>> SF is so weird with frames and meaty stuff.
>>
>> That does make it interesting though.
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>> On 11 December 2013 06:46, Ilitirit Sama
>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> It actually depends on the move. Capcom programmed some moves to have
>> different frame advantage (and even damage eg. Ryu's close st.hp) depending
>> on which frame they hit.
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>> But in general to calculate the max frame advantage of a meaty, you take
>> the base frame advantage, add the active frame you're interested in, then
>> subtract 1)
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>>
>> So for Boxer's LP dash straight on block (it's actually +5f, not +6f - I
>> was looking at incorrect frame data):
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>> 1st active frame = -1f
>>
>> 2nd = 0f
>>
>> 3rd = +1f
>>
>> 4th = +2f
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>> 5th = +3f
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>> 6th = +4f
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>> 7th = +5f
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>> I suspect Boxer's overhead may be one of those moves where Capcom decided
>> the frame advantage for active frame individually, because as a late meaty,
>> it should currently give 10 + 21 - 1 = +30f on hit!
>>
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>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ryan Williams
>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
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>> Is there a set amount of frames that are added to a meaty attack? It's not
>> something I've ever researched but I'd be interested to know. I was just
>> curious as you mentioned that the dash straight would be +6 on block as a
>> late meaty.
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>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> PR Rog says Boxer's LP dash straight being -1 on block is too strong. I
>> agree with him. As a late meaty, that would make it +6f on block. If you
>> consider how it's used at the moment (spaced so that it only hits late in
>> the active frames), so characters would be able to do anything but
>> block/focus afterwards. Even their backdashes can get hit because of the
>> low pushback.
>>
>> His LP and MP overhead are now safe on block, but you can only use it for
>> combo afterwards if they hit very meaty.
>>
>> TAP charges faster and is safe even on level 2.
>>
>> EX Smash is also safer. He didn't even need that buff lol.
>>
>> Ultra 1 hits differently and may be changed so that it can be used to
>> chip, but they're still considering changing it.
>>
>> I'm really disappointed they didn't fix his hurt and push boxes. He can
>> easily avoid x-up oki now with delayed wake up so now some characters don't
>> really have pressure options against him. Red Focus doesn't affect him at
>> all (he doesn't have multi-hit attacks that don't break armour). He really
>> doesn't need hitbox anomalies that make it harder to attack him.
>>
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>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> I just "slowly" moved from the last db to uf.
>> An odd half circle.
>> Guile stepped foreward, then Ultra.
>>
>> On 11 Dec 2013 13:15, "lindsey kiviets"
>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> nice nick , what is the notation?
>>
>> also when can we put plan BB into place place? I want to poon lumi and
>> khan at the same time
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:20:43 +0200
>> Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> So, I managed to get a walk forward ultra with Guile yesterday.
>> ...aaaaand couldn't do it when I tried to record it :(
>>
>> On 11 Dec 2013 11:41, "Sean Carrington"
>> <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
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>> #RESPECT_TO_SMUGDABEST
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>>
>> Loser's Final : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKx4aut0ufY
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>> Salty Run back : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKx4aut0ufY.
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>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> It's called Xbox because it's so kak you'll put it back in the box.
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