[CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 16:46:02 +0200
It actually depends on the move. Capcom programmed some moves to have
different frame advantage (and even damage eg. Ryu's close st.hp) depending
on which frame they hit.
But in general to calculate the max frame advantage of a meaty, you take
the base frame advantage, add the active frame you're interested in, then
subtract 1)
So for Boxer's LP dash straight on block (it's actually +5f, not +6f - I
was looking at incorrect frame data):
1st active frame = -1f
2nd = 0f
3rd = +1f
4th = +2f
5th = +3f
6th = +4f
7th = +5f
I suspect Boxer's overhead may be one of those moves where Capcom decided
the frame advantage for active frame individually, because as a late meaty,
it should currently give 10 + 21 - 1 = +30f on hit!
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Is there a set amount of frames that are added to a meaty attack? It's not
> something I've ever researched but I'd be interested to know. I was just
> curious as you mentioned that the dash straight would be +6 on block as a
> late meaty.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> PR Rog says Boxer's LP dash straight being -1 on block is too strong. I
>> agree with him. As a late meaty, that would make it +6f on block. If you
>> consider how it's used at the moment (spaced so that it only hits late in
>> the active frames), so characters would be able to do anything but
>> block/focus afterwards. Even their backdashes can get hit because of the
>> low pushback.
>>
>> His LP and MP overhead are now safe on block, but you can only use it for
>> combo afterwards if they hit very meaty.
>>
>> TAP charges faster and is safe even on level 2.
>>
>> EX Smash is also safer. He didn't even need that buff lol.
>>
>> Ultra 1 hits differently and may be changed so that it can be used to
>> chip, but they're still considering changing it.
>>
>> I'm really disappointed they didn't fix his hurt and push boxes. He can
>> easily avoid x-up oki now with delayed wake up so now some characters don't
>> really have pressure options against him. Red Focus doesn't affect him at
>> all (he doesn't have multi-hit attacks that don't break armour). He really
>> doesn't need hitbox anomalies that make it harder to attack him.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I just "slowly" moved from the last db to uf.
>>> An odd half circle.
>>> Guile stepped foreward, then Ultra.
>>> On 11 Dec 2013 13:15, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> nice nick , what is the notation?
>>>>
>>>> also when can we put plan BB into place place? I want to poon lumi and
>>>> khan at the same time
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:20:43 +0200
>>>> Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> So, I managed to get a walk forward ultra with Guile yesterday.
>>>> ...aaaaand couldn't do it when I tried to record it :(
>>>> On 11 Dec 2013 11:41, "Sean Carrington" <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> #RESPECT_TO_SMUGDABEST
>>>>
>>>> Loser's Final : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKx4aut0ufY
>>>>
>>>> Salty Run back : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKx4aut0ufY.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's called Xbox because it's so kak you'll put it back in the box.
>>>>
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