You should also check out wasteland 2. Basically divinity with a fallout
style.
On 6 Jul 2017 11:16, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It is very time-consuming because of all the different things you can do
and learn (shit like learning how to talk to animals which unlocks special
quests) and there's usually more than one approach to completing quests.
The gameplay is awesome though. I've always been a fan of
real-time/turn-based hybrid gameplay. You can strategise at your leisure
and do some really cool stuff when you're on point. Character builds are
also very open-ended. It's just a very fun game to play overall.
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Ashraf Barendse <
ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I forgot i have divinity. Started it up then realized its gonna take a
lot of time.
On 6 Jul 2017 11:05, "euraima tobias" <euraima@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ok I'll have a go at that.
On Thu, 06 Jul 2017 at 10:23 AM Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
In order of importance:
- Rule 1
- Rule 2
- Change your intensity
- Get a recent Nvidia driver
- Get the CUDA DLLs
- Get the Visual C DLLs
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:20 AM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Will Johnny be ready tonight?
In other news, I see dash on the rise? Can't get the miner to run ,
gives me cuda errors. Also everyone saying minergate is unsafe? Why you
make me use it man.
On Thu, 06 Jul 2017 at 7:07 AM lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
lol free trip to s korea stu.
Johnny's combos are weird af. I don't know wtf is going on.
need to meditate on this character. Couldn't play rev2 last nyt. Its
a completely different game, so I need to practice from the beginning
since
they redone millia.
I has a sad, but this could be a blessing too, coz now I don't take
extra 16% dmg or no reason.
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 05 July 2017 05:52 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: Hello
Sure. No hitting below the belt.
Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Nicholas Robertson-Muir<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
<nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: 2017-07-05 19:50
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Hello
Nice work Stu.
Can I post a comment?
On 5 Jul 2017 19:33, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Yeah, thanks. Hoping I get the trip to S.Korea.
Sent from my Windows Phone
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From: Ilitirit Sama<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
<ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx%3Cmailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>>
Sent: 2017-07-05 19:31
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:c
pt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: Hello
Congrats Stu!
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
I...
I....
ye, I got nothing.
On 5 Jul 2017 19:13, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
Lol:
http://esportscommentator.blogspot.co.za/2017/07/the-selecti
on-process-continues-tekken-7.html<https://urldefense.proofp
oint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__esportscommentator.blogspot.
co.za_2017_07_the-2Dselection-2Dprocess-2Dcontinues-
2Dtekken-2D7.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=0TzQCy9lgR5hSW-bDg5HA76y7nf4lv
OzvVop5GM3Y80&r=3188cCLKqrRVUgvzUimFxNxHH_Hcs83no5DXOBKTq-g&
m=FMG9wzal0ocOc31wfWV2qp4N7Jf68hu6GLhBsG_Q6C0&s=
I45WZ6dVD78QFCKeqsEAQemwxx9eC-90ruxhZhXk-30&e=><https://urld
efense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__esportscommentator.
blogspot.co.za_2017_07_the-2Dselection-2Dprocess-2Dcontinues
-2Dtekken-2D7.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=0TzQCy9lgR5hSW-bDg5HA76y7nf4lv
OzvVop5GM3Y80&r=3188cCLKqrRVUgvzUimFxNxHH_Hcs83no5DXOBKTq-g&
m=Xcut_lbak6-rkmk1KRlrj54EZQUS-0Eucd4slEGeFAM&s=w_
80R2UzeFQtyDb7tPPYVoB5ZJUtml8ti-MG_t2__O0&e=>
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.org><mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bou
nce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@freelis
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ounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Behalf Of Manase Zote
Sent: 05 July 2017 6:08 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:c
pt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: RE: Hello
These are fixes rather than nerfs/buffs
On 5 Jul 2017 18:06, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
Thanks Manase.
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.org><mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bou
nce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@freelis
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ounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:c
pt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: RE: Hello
A balance changelist for the console/PC version of Tekken 7 has
finally emerged and this time for Version 1.03 which was pushed out
recently<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A_
_www.avoidingthepuddle.com_news_2017_7_5_ps4xb1pc-2Dtekken-2
D7-2D103-2Dupdate-2Drolling-2Dout-2Dendless-2Drevenge-2Dmat.
html&d=DwMFaQ&c=0TzQCy9lgR5hSW-bDg5HA76y7nf4lvOzvVop5GM3Y80&
r=3188cCLKqrRVUgvzUimFxNxHH_Hcs83no5DXOBKTq-g&m=_
wo6KIbI8PJTuxTavca46r8Kz8ZJhUqFS0Jn0QrrjME&s=Or6n-
m8AWPWHwIzgxjw_j_8V_4palh9PHbhcYEjSzzo&e=>. The PDF file of all the
balance changes were posted on the Japanese Tekken 7 website but I went
ahead and translated the list here so people can know what got changed in
the latest update. These balance changelogs include Nina, Lee, Miguel,
Bears, Eddy, Eliza and Akuma changes. Bandai Namco if you're reading, can
you save me the effort next time and translate the changelogs of your
balance notes yourself? thx.
Tekken 7 Version 1.03 PDF ≫ http://www.tk7.tekken-official
.jp/pdf/update_1_03.pdf<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2
/url?u=http-3A__www.tk7.tekken-2Dofficial.jp_pdf_update-5F1-
5F03.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=0TzQCy9lgR5hSW-bDg5HA76y7nf4lv
OzvVop5GM3Y80&r=3188cCLKqrRVUgvzUimFxNxHH_Hcs83no5DXOBKTq-g&
m=FMG9wzal0ocOc31wfWV2qp4N7Jf68hu6GLhBsG_Q6C0&s=
0isUBMmEQoo2Z3koFPh9KjyV7xmp4O-HTHQgP9l4bsA&e=><https://urld
efense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.tk7.tekken-2Dof
ficial.jp_pdf_update-5F1-5F03.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=0TzQCy9lgR5hSW-
bDg5HA76y7nf4lvOzvVop5GM3Y80&r=3188cCLKqrRVUgvzUimFxNxHH_Hcs
83no5DXOBKTq-g&m=_wo6KIbI8PJTuxTavca46r8Kz8ZJhUqFS0Jn0QrrjME
&s=xfxByzKZRE6m53jd0wcqNwi_wontEBtsKH-FKkPvRtI&e=>
▌Tekken 7 Version 1.03 Balance Changes
￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣ ￣
[Nina]
• Ivory Cutter (1+4) damage on counter hit has been adjusted.
• Siren's Kiss (f+3) damage on counter hit has been adjusted.
Note: It was previously found that Nina's Ivory Cutter on counter hit
did less damage than on normal hit so that's probably what these changes
are addressing.
[Lee]
• After activating the Rage Drive (d/f+3+4~f) and going into Mist
Step, you can now cancel the Mist Step by pushing back or side stepping.
• Silver Cyclone Unblockable (d+3+4) damage has been reduced by 20.
• Stinging Rush to Mist Step (b+3,3~f) can now be cancelled into
either back or side step.
• Mist Illusion (b+1+2 parry) recovery frames have been added by 10.
(Made worse.)
[Miguel]
• Trinidad Slash (u/f+3,2,2) hitbox on the 1st hit of this string
has been made bigger.
[Kuma & Panda]
• Jab Elbow Stomp (2,1,3) bug where the 2nd hit of this string's hit
box would shrink after inputting the 3rd hit has been fixed.
• Killing Uppercut Grizzly Scratch (Hunting d/f+1,1) input window
for the 2nd hit of this string has been reduced by 5 frames.
• Hunting to Standing (Hunting ~ Up) parrying low attacks while
trying to stand up from hunting has been removed.
• Rabid Bear (fff+1+2) recovery frames have been reduced by 2.
Tracking on the move has been reduced. Opponent recovers 3 frames faster
after blocking this move.
[Eddy Gordo]
• Rage Art (Rage b+3+4) no longer wall or balcony breaks. Eddy now
recovers 9 frames slower after hitting with the Rage Art.
• Reversao (f+3+4) reduced 'movement momentum' for your opponent
after being hit by the 1st hit of this string. Pushback has been
shortened.
• Mao Esquerda (d/f+1) reduced 'movement momentum' for your opponent
on hit. Pushback has been shortened.
• Meia-Lua de Compasso (d/b+3+4, 4, 3) reduced 'movement momentum'
for your opponent after being hit by the 1st hit of this string. Pushback
has been shortened. The hitbox on the 2nd hit of this string has been
made
bigger.
• Helicopter (Handstand 4) reduced 'movement momentum' for your
opponent after being hit by the 1st hit of this string.
Note: I'm not a Eddy player so I'm not too familiar with how exactly
some of these moves got changed after hit. It's been suggested that these
moves will now maybe hit more consistantly after scoring the hit with the
1st hit of these strings<https://urldefense.pro
ofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_YomaNZFG_status_8
82594488463400962&d=DwMFaQ&c=0TzQCy9lgR5hSW-bDg5HA76y7nf4lvO
zvVop5GM3Y80&r=3188cCLKqrRVUgvzUimFxNxHH_Hcs83no5DXOBKTq-g&
m=_wo6KIbI8PJTuxTavca46r8Kz8ZJhUqFS0Jn0QrrjME&s=
dSf1eLHfspVNcX_QIIdhGFQEwxfsM-djDuIJP4shRJU&e=>.
[Eliza]
• Mid-Air Divekick (Jump qcb+3) properties on hit with an airborne
opponent has been changed.
• Fireball to Moon Glide (qcf+1 or qcf+2 ~ SRK 3+4) bug where her
Bloody Gauge (meter) would deplete after inputting this move in a
specific
timing has been fixed.
• ff+4,2, qcf+1+2 bug where she can use the EX version of the move
without meter has been fixed.
• ff+4,2 into qcf,qcf+1+2 bug where she can use the Super version of
the move without meter has been fixed.
• 2,2 reduced 'movement momentum' for your opponent after blocking
the 1st hit of this string. Pushback on the 1st hit has also been
shortened. The hitbox on the 2nd hit of this string has been made bigger.
• Down Jab into while standing (d+1~F) you recover 3 frames faster
after performing a down jab and then going into standing state by pushing
forward.
Note: I don't have access to Eliza on my copy of Tekken 7 on Steam so
no move names for the mean time.
【System Balancing Changes】
• Fixed certain characters who's throws had not properly applied the
RAGE effect.
• Akuma's Hadouken will no longer allow certain Supers to armor and
go right through it for a punish. (See this video clip on this funny
interaction)<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http
s-3A__twitter.com_Esports420Kush_status_874403512280416257&
d=DwMFaQ&c=0TzQCy9lgR5hSW-bDg5HA76y7nf4lvOzvVop5GM3Y80&r=318
8cCLKqrRVUgvzUimFxNxHH_Hcs83no5DXOBKTq-g&m=_wo6KIbI8PJTuxTav
ca46r8Kz8ZJhUqFS0Jn0QrrjME&s=RA4YBL2DU8lZhWYVwfLkf2eDhpqAUU
Zczc481fxrBi0&e=>
• Eliza not receiving any chip damage after blocking supers have now
been fixed.
• Eliza not receiving any meter after hitting or getting her EX
moves blocked have now been fixed.
• Various other minor system bug fixes.
---
On 5 Jul 2017 17:59, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
Still at work and having trouble accessing AVP since it is classified
as a gaming site.
Can someone please post the balance notes?
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.org><mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bou
nce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@freelis
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ounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
Sent: 05 July 2017 4:20 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:c
pt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: Hello
is king mentioned in there?
Ima be livid if they touch anything with king
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nce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
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<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> on behalf of Wynand-Ben <
paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>
Sent: 05 July 2017 02:11 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:c
pt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: Hello
Oh Shit
They are actually doing Balance patches!
Thats a new thing for Tekken
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.org><mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bou
nce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
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<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> on behalf of richard
moorcroft <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 04:07 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:c
pt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: RE: Hello
http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2017/7/5/tekken-7-vers
ion-103-balance-changelist-pdf.html<https://urldefense.proof
point.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avoidingthepuddle.com_news
_2017_7_5_tekken-2D7-2Dversion-2D103-2Dbalance-2Dchangelist-
2Dpdf.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=0TzQCy9lgR5hSW-bDg5HA76y7nf4lv
OzvVop5GM3Y80&r=3188cCLKqrRVUgvzUimFxNxHH_Hcs83no5DXOBKTq-g&
m=FMG9wzal0ocOc31wfWV2qp4N7Jf68hu6GLhBsG_Q6C0&s=52w5Fa_
5mUVZ8Bu_NZrv58zuS0qdiTI7FxHj2wqiw_c&e=><https://urldefense.
proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avoidingthepuddle.com_
news_2017_7_5_tekken-2D7-2Dversion-2D103-2Dbalance-
2Dchangelist-2Dpdf.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=0TzQCy9lgR5hSW-
bDg5HA76y7nf4lvOzvVop5GM3Y80&r=3188cCLKqrRVUgvzUimFxNxHH_
Hcs83no5DXOBKTq-g&m=ojMFaWoCeK9Z-xGGuCmi6josnqusUaSoq8xQxr7p_no&s=
cr94KS5Zdq5HZDajeDM7C-YyDc0aZRSRKP_B3SSgjBE&e=>
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oofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avoidingthepuddle.com_new
s_2017_7_5_tekken-2D7-2Dversion-2D103-2Dbalance-2Dchangelist
-2Dpdf.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=0TzQCy9lgR5hSW-bDg5HA76y7nf4lvOzvVop5
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cr94KS5Zdq5HZDajeDM7C-YyDc0aZRSRKP_B3SSgjBE&e=>
Tekken 7 - Version 1.03 Balance Changelist PDF - News - Avoiding The
Puddle<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__w
ww.avoidingthepuddle.com_news_2017_7_5_tekken-2D7-2Dversion-
2D103-2Dbalance-2Dchangelist-2Dpdf.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=0TzQCy9lg
R5hSW-bDg5HA76y7nf4lvOzvVop5GM3Y80&r=3188cCLKqrRVUgvzUimFxNx
HH_Hcs83no5DXOBKTq-g&m=ojMFaWoCeK9Z-xGGuCmi6josnqusUaSoq8xQxr7p_no&s=
cr94KS5Zdq5HZDajeDM7C-YyDc0aZRSRKP_B3SSgjBE&e=>
www.avoidingthepuddle.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/
v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avoidingthepuddle.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=0TzQC
y9lgR5hSW-bDg5HA76y7nf4lvOzvVop5GM3Y80&r=3188cCLKqrRVUgvzUim
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uN81o&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-
3A__www.avoidingthepuddle.com&d=DwQGaQ&c=0TzQCy9lgR5hSW-
bDg5HA76y7nf4lvOzvVop5GM3Y80&r=3188cCLKqrRVUgvzUimFxNxHH_
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A balance changelist for the console/PC version of Tekken 7 has
finally emerged and this time f...
On 05 Jul 2017 15:54, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlz
ote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>>>
wrote:
His d+3 was awesome though.
On 5 Jul 2017 07:20, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
I think he was, but not sure. Maybe it was just JDCR making him look
good. He’s got a lot of other cool tools, like his 14f not very electric
or
windy godfist. His low game was non-existent though.
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.org><mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bou
nce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@freelis
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On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
Sent: 04 July 2017 4:44 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:c
pt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: Hello
Was AK considered good Tier wise?
Could be why he wasnt?
But fuck knows I cant remember much from our matches about the
character...
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Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@kpm
g.co.za><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdai
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Do you remember AK’s db+4 sweep?
It’s just a straight low on normal hit. CH combo. Block terrible. In
paper that move should not have been used at all. Ask Di if he agrees
with
that.
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Subject: Re: Hello
You dont need good players.
You just do some math.
Yoshi player does FC df+4 x amount of times per game.
Everytime he is gambling with odds that are not in his favour at all.
You cannot make that consistent. It will be erratic and unstable
performance.
You will get blown up more than you succeed.
But you cant do anything about it because thats the only tool Yoshi
has for this purpose.
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Subject: Re: Hello
Question is, does he need to be? I think he's a powerful character
regardless of tier. I don't need to wait for a high-level player to make
up
my mind for me.
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He doesnt have an extensive repertoire in this case. (For other
situations perhaps)
He has FC df+2. Struggling to come up with something that can
perform a similar function.
Not saying Yoshi is bad lol, but hes not touted as being amazing
either.
So clearly something is missing or lacking.
I think its his low game.
Dunno if you okes have a different idea of whats keeping him from top
tier?
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Subject: Re: Hello
But those moves aren't meant to be spammed to begin with, Paasie. It
lessens their effectiveness. If people eventually latch on to you
spamming
a strong move and counter it, that's what supposed to happen to ensure
that
both parties improve while advancing the meta. If they just keep getting
hit by it and you keep landing it successfully, who's learning anything?
The mindgame is often far more important than the move actually
landing/being used. If used sparingly, anything can be effective. And
Yoshi
has such an extensive repertoire of tools that it mostly becomes a
non-issue.
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Im not complaining about the unblockable but even when I previously
played yoshi in T6 and the deer in the headlights is not gonna last.
Its really not hard to react to. We gonna be playing this game for a
long time... its working very well now tho.
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Subject: Re: Hello
If viewed in a vacuum, maybe. If viewed alongside the possibility of
getting hit by twin pistons, which, if blocked, can be cancelled to
ensure
that Yoshi gets floated for a shitty combo...
I mean, this is what goes through someone's head when Yoshi gets into
FC.
a) He might do sword slash
b) He might do twin pistons
c) He might do FC df+4
Sword slash already has the 'deer in the headlights' effect which
makes it a very effective FC mindgame tool despite having stupid startup
and a noticeable tell.
Couple that with twin pistons and you already have a scary 50/50.
Then you factor in FC df+4 which, on hit, gives you mixup opportunities
and
launches on CH.
I'm still ok with it being that punishable, considering how powerful
that mindgame is. But I get what you're saying.
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Its not useless. Just not good.
Its all he has so hes forced to use it. Its useful in that sense.
Its just unfortunate. When one of a characters goto must use moves
has such a lobsided risk/reward ratio it ends up being luck based.
You can succesfully hit it 4-6 times but 1 block negates it all.
You have to do it so much that eventually they guess right and block
it. With the damage being way in their favour.
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Subject: Re: Hello
Same applies to FC df+4 in its current state (note, current state).
It's far from being a useless low. I don't want to be mixed up when I get
touched by that thing and I sure as hell don't want to be launched on CH.
Its effectiveness wouldn't be diminished in the slightest if it
functioned
similarly to Master Raven's.
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Its a reason to block low. With appropriate reward vs Risk imo.
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Subject: RE: Hello
Demo man is a different move.
15f low. -31 on block.
Full demo is -17 on block regardless of JF blue sparkly ender or not.
Just the d+4,2 is -18 on block, -9 on hit.
Damage on demo is a mess and changes depending on range and the trip.
Max damage for it is 57.
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Subject: Re: Hello
Cool
So Demoman still works?
Change that to just giving you some plus instead. No followups etc.
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Subject: RE: Hello
Dude, that would be out of control. For characters that have normal
happy launchers and stuff, the addition of a low which launches on CH is
nice, but almost always stupidly punishable.
Paul’s qcb+3 is 18f. It’s -9 on hit (but has mid follow up). Doesn’t
trip on hit. Launch on CH. On block, it is -21. No way is anyone failing
to
punish that puppy.
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Subject: Re: Hello
It still needs to be launch on block imo.
Just not with the stagger. It makes punishment automode. You can
realize late that you blocked something and still get the punish.
Make it approx -16 without the stagger animation and Ill be
happy... or give it KND.
So atleast people need to be awake to punish it.
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Subject: Re: Hello
It's a low that not only gives you frame advantage on hit but can
also launch on CH. Seems fair that it has such a severe penalty IMO;
especially when considering that he already has an unblockable low that
launches on hit (which, despite having a very obvious tell, is still one
of
the most effective moves in his arsenal). If he didn't have sword sweep
as
well, I'd probably take issue with how punishable FC df+4 is.
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Just feels like most -20+ full stagger animation lows seems to give
you a little more than +frames. He does get a combo on CH atleast.
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Subject: Re: Hello
*lol* He's already amazing without that thing knocking down on normal
hit. Still leaves him at +5 on regular hit so he can do stuff afterwards.
He also has sword sweep so there's that :P
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This yea
df+1, 2 follow is amazing and really helps allot
His new ws+2,1 launcher is boss yea its bad on block but you in
chopper stance so you just get floated. Still damage but not full combo
damage.
His powercrush is super useful as well yea
FC df+4 just needs to KND on normal hit and he will be amazing imo.
Currently I need to take stupid risks with that thing for little reward.
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Subject: Re: Hello
The mere addition of df+1, 2, twin pistons and his power crush, which
forces people to play neutral differently against him, is enough to
elevate
him in the tier lists. His mixup game has become a lot stronger. This is
the strongest he's been since 5 imo.
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You reckon it is enough to move Yoshi up the tier lists compared to
previous Tekkens? Then again, Yoshi has long been an excellent character
on
paper, but not quite so much in actual matches.
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Subject: Re: Hello
Yoshi has definitely had some improvements in framedata...
But dunno about all the moves etc.
1,1 is way better
df+1+2,2 is only -13 and not launch anymore
His life drain dodge spin thingies recover faster from what I have
heard
Having a normal df+2 is a definite improvement framewise
I assume UF+2 was a framedata buff that allows it to combo into
flash...
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Subject: RE: Hello
Had a look at Paul’s frame data. Not seeing major changes in there
compared to previous games. One nerf that I can see, but it is small.
Anyone noticing major changes to frame data? I suppose that assumes
that you’re playing your old main…
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Subject: Re: Hello
ye tekken would be hype<
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