I don't like the online component *at all*.
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 4:15 PM, richard moorcroft <
greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Salie you play Tekken still??? I never see you play at all
On 04 Jul 2017 16:13, "Wynand-Ben" <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You dont need good players.
You just do some math.
Yoshi player does FC df+4 x amount of times per game.
Everytime he is gambling with odds that are not in his favour at all.
You cannot make that consistent. It will be erratic and unstable
performance.
You will get blown up more than you succeed.
But you cant do anything about it because thats the only tool Yoshi has
for this purpose.
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behalf of Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 4, 2017 04:05 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
Question is, does he need to be? I think he's a powerful character
regardless of tier. I don't need to wait for a high-level player to make up
my mind for me.
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
He doesnt have an extensive repertoire in this case. (For other
situations perhaps)
He has FC df+2. Struggling to come up with something that can perform a
similar function.
Not saying Yoshi is bad lol, but hes not touted as being amazing
either.
So clearly something is missing or lacking.
I think its his low game.
Dunno if you okes have a different idea of whats keeping him from top
tier?
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behalf of Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 4, 2017 03:58 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
But those moves aren't meant to be spammed to begin with, Paasie. It
lessens their effectiveness. If people eventually latch on to you spamming
a strong move and counter it, that's what supposed to happen to ensure that
both parties improve while advancing the meta. If they just keep getting
hit by it and you keep landing it successfully, who's learning anything?
The mindgame is often far more important than the move actually
landing/being used. If used sparingly, anything can be effective. And Yoshi
has such an extensive repertoire of tools that it mostly becomes a
non-issue.
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Im not complaining about the unblockable but even when I previously
played yoshi in T6 and the deer in the headlights is not gonna last.
Its really not hard to react to. We gonna be playing this game for a
long time... its working very well now tho.
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behalf of Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 4, 2017 03:48 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
If viewed in a vacuum, maybe. If viewed alongside the possibility of
getting hit by twin pistons, which, if blocked, can be cancelled to ensure
that Yoshi gets floated for a shitty combo...
I mean, this is what goes through someone's head when Yoshi gets into
FC.
a) He might do sword slash
b) He might do twin pistons
c) He might do FC df+4
Sword slash already has the 'deer in the headlights' effect which makes
it a very effective FC mindgame tool despite having stupid startup and a
noticeable tell.
Couple that with twin pistons and you already have a scary 50/50. Then
you factor in FC df+4 which, on hit, gives you mixup opportunities and
launches on CH.
I'm still ok with it being that punishable, considering how powerful
that mindgame is. But I get what you're saying.
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Its not useless. Just not good.
Its all he has so hes forced to use it. Its useful in that sense.
Its just unfortunate. When one of a characters goto must use moves
has such a lobsided risk/reward ratio it ends up being luck based.
You can succesfully hit it 4-6 times but 1 block negates it all.
You have to do it so much that eventually they guess right and block
it. With the damage being way in their favour.
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 4, 2017 03:24 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
Same applies to FC df+4 in its current state (note, current state).
It's far from being a useless low. I don't want to be mixed up when I get
touched by that thing and I sure as hell don't want to be launched on CH.
Its effectiveness wouldn't be diminished in the slightest if it functioned
similarly to Master Raven's.
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Its a reason to block low. With appropriate reward vs Risk imo.
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 4, 2017 03:17 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: Hello
Demo man is a different move.
15f low. -31 on block.
Full demo is -17 on block regardless of JF blue sparkly ender or not.
Just the d+4,2 is -18 on block, -9 on hit.
Damage on demo is a mess and changes depending on range and the trip.
Max damage for it is 57.
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@freelis
ts.org] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
*Sent:* 04 July 2017 3:08 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
Cool
So Demoman still works?
Change that to just giving you some plus instead. No followups etc.
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 4, 2017 12:51 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: Hello
Dude, that would be out of control. For characters that have normal
happy launchers and stuff, the addition of a low which launches on CH is
nice, but almost always stupidly punishable.
Paul’s qcb+3 is 18f. It’s -9 on hit (but has mid follow up). Doesn’t
trip on hit. Launch on CH. On block, it is -21. No way is anyone failing
to
punish that puppy.
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@freelis
ts.org <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
*Sent:* 04 July 2017 12:42 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
It still needs to be launch on block imo.
Just not with the stagger. It makes punishment automode. You can
realize late that you blocked something and still get the punish.
Make it approx -16 without the stagger animation and Ill be happy...
or give it KND.
So atleast people need to be awake to punish it.
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on behalf of Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 4, 2017 12:28 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
It's a low that not only gives you frame advantage on hit but can
also launch on CH. Seems fair that it has such a severe penalty IMO;
especially when considering that he already has an unblockable low that
launches on hit (which, despite having a very obvious tell, is still one
of
the most effective moves in his arsenal). If he didn't have sword sweep
as
well, I'd probably take issue with how punishable FC df+4 is.
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Just feels like most -20+ full stagger animation lows seems to give
you a little more than +frames. He does get a combo on CH atleast.
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 4, 2017 12:11 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
*lol* He's already amazing without that thing knocking down on normal
hit. Still leaves him at +5 on regular hit so he can do stuff afterwards.
He also has sword sweep so there's that :P
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
This yea
df+1, 2 follow is amazing and really helps allot
His new ws+2,1 launcher is boss yea its bad on block but you in
chopper stance so you just get floated. Still damage but not full combo
damage.
His powercrush is super useful as well yea
FC df+4 just needs to KND on normal hit and he will be amazing imo.
Currently I need to take stupid risks with that thing for little reward.
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 4, 2017 11:31 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
The mere addition of df+1, 2, twin pistons and his power crush, which
forces people to play neutral differently against him, is enough to
elevate
him in the tier lists. His mixup game has become a lot stronger. This is
the strongest he's been since 5 imo.
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You reckon it is enough to move Yoshi up the tier lists compared to
previous Tekkens? Then again, Yoshi has long been an excellent character
on
paper, but not quite so much in actual matches.
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@freelis
ts.org] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
*Sent:* 04 July 2017 11:27 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
Yoshi has definitely had some improvements in framedata...
But dunno about all the moves etc.
1,1 is way better
df+1+2,2 is only -13 and not launch anymore
His life drain dodge spin thingies recover faster from what I have
heard
Having a normal df+2 is a definite improvement framewise
I assume UF+2 was a framedata buff that allows it to combo into
flash...
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 4, 2017 11:18 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: Hello
Had a look at Paul’s frame data. Not seeing major changes in there
compared to previous games. One nerf that I can see, but it is small.
Anyone noticing major changes to frame data? I suppose that assumes
that you’re playing your old main…
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@freelis
ts.org <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
*Sent:* 04 July 2017 11:04 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
ye tekken would be hype
my king is ready
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 04 July 2017 09:00 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
At the very least, it would be nice to see Tekken featured at these
events.
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
No Tekken
No Hype
Would say GG but im being realistic :P
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 4, 2017 10:49 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
y u guys not sad about EGE?
I did watch 40 min of omito beasting, need to watch the rest of the
video to understand the level
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 04 July 2017 08:19 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
All good I missed it anyway, was selling for $489
On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 at 10:10 AM Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Not the best, not the worst. Does the job.
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:18 AM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
@salie is the evga sc 2 1070 any good, build quality wise. Was
preferably looking for msi gaming cards but this one is available.
On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 at 8:04 AM lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
GB posted a picture on discord.
no CTS, no tekken, no gg, not even sfv.
Injustice2!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tournament
I understand not wanting cts involved, coz we do things our own way,
but dammit, not even sfv?
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 04 July 2017 05:52 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
Info lb?
On 4 Jul 2017 07:16, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Morning peeps,
gg EGE is gg
so sad
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Di Lhong <marongdin@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 03 July 2017 05:02 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
I saw this version before...Cyclops and Wolverine seems to REALLY
like each other lolz
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
XXX-men?
Lol
I bet if I check the imdb for that, it will get a better score than
the upcoming X-men movie.
I am of course assuming a parody would have been made for it by now,
I'm just too scared to check at work 😱
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
You know, when the producer of an X-Men movie touts it as a "sexy
thriller", one comes to the realisation that the movie's delay is
probably
for the best. I'm referring to the TBD Gambit movie btw.
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Dude, I freaked out after doing one of the flight thingies where
you're supposed to spray shit. You're suspended in mid-air and the only
thing going through your mind is "how the fuck do I get down?" *lmao*
When Paas switched over to The Lab, I enjoyed it a lot more.
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My gran freaked out with the thing.
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@freelis
ts.org] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Williams
*Sent:* 03 July 2017 11:40 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
It feels like you're actually there. Like with that plank thing; you
*know* it's not real but your mind still convinces you that it's
dangerous to step on to the damn thing *lol* There were alarm bells going
off in my head after just looking down :P
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Nice, glad you enjoyed it.
VR ftw
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*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Monday, July 3, 2017 11:03 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
That's really good. How much power does that use? You should try
dropping the power limit and increasing the memory. Try also mining with
the new Ethminer (not Claymore).
Paas that VR stuff is legit. I'm looking into getting a set now.
Just have to figure out where to put it...
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:58 AM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Noooo, fck man I was looking all weekend.
I managed to get my old 970 to 20mhs for ether... I'm surprised as it
mines ether better than zec.
On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 at 10:45 AM Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
@Khan were you fortunate enough to snatch a card of Amazon this
morning?
1070 mini for R6k in total (shipping + import duty). Sold out
between the time I clicked on Add to cart and Check out
1060 mini for R3.2. Same as above
1070 watercooled for R7.3k. Managed to buy the last one. I'll
probably just resell it here though.
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