They still play differently from each other. Their moves are also animated differently. It's like Kyo and Iori, both are pushdown both have fireballs, DP's and a running move(hcb+k) but still end up being different overall. On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > To me she falls in the same group. > I'm not following canon here. > If you look at her attacks alone, a DP that trails ice - like K' with fire. > Kicked projectile - Like K''s 2nd motion from his qcf+P, qcf+K command. > Close proximity flame/ice... slide move.... > Yah, similar. > > > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> http://snk.wikia.com/wiki/Kula_Diamond >> >> Kula Diamond is one of the plot characters in KOF 2000 >> Why would a sub-boss(Kula) be a failed clone of a failure/traitor(K')? >> Sure the design is similar as the story says but they are more like the >> opposites of each other. >> She was supposed to stop him and the project was dubbed anti - K'. >> Her nickname is the 'Ice doll' so I'm still not sure why you see flames >> around her. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>> I mean Chample. >>> I will become chample. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1 July 2014 13:48, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Tung Fu Rue (タン フー ルー *Tan Fū Rū*? >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets> >>>> , Chinese <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_language>: 糖胡芦; Pinyin >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin>: Táng Hú-Lú) is one of the first >>>> four opponents the players faces in the original *Fatal Fury*. (When >>>> either Andy or Terry defeats him in "Fatal Fury Special," each Bogard >>>> brother addresses him as "Master Tan.") He is an elderly martial arts >>>> master from China who developed his own fighting style based on *Bājíquán >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C4%81j%C3%ADqu%C3%A1n>* known as the >>>> Holy Fist of Eight Ways (八極聖拳 *Hakkyokuseiken*? >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets>). >>>> In the past, he trained Terry and Andy's adoptive father, Jeff Bogard, >>>> >>>> I think this threw me off :) >>>> So technically Terry is a self fought street fighter a.k.a. the lone >>>> wolf. >>>> I still feel he is not a brawler like Franco Bash or Shen Woo. >>>> Everything he does is straight up martial arts inspired, he has a code, >>>> self control and he has trade mark moves. >>>> He later mentored Geese's son Rock Howard so to me he is more of a >>>> martial artist than a wild street brawler. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I dunno about later on, but Terry was self-trained at the start. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> SNK (1991-12-20). * Fatal Fury: King of Fighters*. Neo Geo. SNK. >>>>> Level/area: Terry Bogard background. "After the death of his father, Jeff >>>>> Bogard, a talented martial arts, Terry left his home in Southtown. Angered >>>>> and alone, he trained vigrously and improved on his street fighting style. >>>>> On the streets, Terry fought with talented fighters from all areas and >>>>> developed his own domination fighting style. Years of training, fighting >>>>> on >>>>> the streets, and the hatred that burned within him strengthened his will >>>>> to >>>>> come back and defeat his sworn enemy, Geese." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Manase Zote >>>>> *Sent:* 01 July 2014 1:30 PM >>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: Fw: RE: USF4 changes! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kula a flame user? >>>>> >>>>> I thought Terry Bogard was some sort of martial artist, he even had a >>>>> master. >>>>> >>>>> Both Athena and Kensue Psycho power since their team is dubbed psycho >>>>> soldier. >>>>> >>>>> Vice is a pure grappler bra. >>>>> >>>>> Chinese boxing doesn't exist , I mean we are not the living in >>>>> 60's/70's anymore. >>>>> >>>>> I just want to see some old characters make a comeback but we all know >>>>> not all of them will. >>>>> >>>>> I would also like to see new comers like Hwa Jai from Fatal Fury, and >>>>> completely new characters(KOF exclusive ones) like Iori, Kyo, Elizabeth, >>>>> Daolon etc. >>>>> >>>>> I would like characters that are really unique/completely new not >>>>> really limited by style/archetype(boxing, grappler, zoning) or appearance >>>>> like flames or weapons etc. >>>>> >>>>> So if they are flame users/martial artist/from the military or Ninjas >>>>> it really doesn't matter as long as they are new to the series and are not >>>>> based on existing characters as clones or masters/students. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir < >>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There are already 3 ninjas. >>>>> >>>>> I wouldn't mind seeing a different AOF crowd either. >>>>> >>>>> Let's take a look at what we have. >>>>> >>>>> 6 Playable "Flame" users - Both Kyos, Ex Iori, K', Kula Ash. 7 if you >>>>> count Saiki in this group. >>>>> >>>>> A lightning user - Beni >>>>> >>>>> A Judo practitioner >>>>> >>>>> 3 "brawlers" - Terry, Shen. Maxima >>>>> >>>>> 3 Ninjas - Mai, Andy, Duolon >>>>> >>>>> 2 Odd power users - Athena, Elizabeth >>>>> >>>>> A Weapon User - Billy >>>>> >>>>> 2 "slashy" fighters Mature and Claw Iori. >>>>> >>>>> 5 Karatekas - Both Takumas, Ryo, Robert, Yuri >>>>> >>>>> A Vice - aaaahhhhhh dunno what to call her style. >>>>> >>>>> A taekwondo practitioner - Kim >>>>> >>>>> 3 Kickboxers - King, Joe, Hwa Jai >>>>> >>>>> 1 Wrestler - Raiden >>>>> >>>>> 2 Chinese Boxers - Chin, Kensou. >>>>> >>>>> 3 Military - Ikari team >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If we take that 3 is the max for most users then I rationalize this >>>>> >>>>> Enough flame users, some will go missing. Bye-bye Ash and Saiki >>>>> >>>>> Pop Beni in with Athena and Elizabeth - 3 reached >>>>> >>>>> Judo user? Pure sportsmen needed! Wrestling! Boxing! Jujitsu! >>>>> >>>>> Brawlers - Meh... enough. >>>>> >>>>> Ninjas - Enough >>>>> >>>>> Weapon users - Kubotan? Whip? Switchblade? Toreos Sword?!??!? (lol) >>>>> they have been used before. >>>>> >>>>> Slashy player needed - Freeman from Garou? >>>>> >>>>> Enough with the "karate" lot. If Takuma retires, we reach 3. >>>>> >>>>> Vice - I have no idea where to pair her style up with. Yamazaki >>>>> Perhaps. >>>>> >>>>> More Taekwondo lot could be cool. Chae lim, Dong Hwan, Jae Hoon. >>>>> >>>>> Enough Kickboxers >>>>> >>>>> More wrestlers are perhaps an option I suppose Tizoc., but I'd like to >>>>> see Ramon, because he was a true Luchador. >>>>> >>>>> A spot for a Chinese boxer... GATOOOOOO! >>>>> >>>>> Military is taken care of. >>>>> >>>>> So if I were to round things up nicely >>>>> >>>>> I'd add A Garou team Freeman, Tizoc and Gato. >>>>> >>>>> An agent team. Ramon, Vanessa and Seth. >>>>> >>>>> not because they are my favorites, but because their fighting style >>>>> balance makes sense. >>>>> >>>>> If I had to bring in new characters. A Jujitsu practitioner would be >>>>> interesting. A Shaolin too. It would make a nice "new Masters" team. >>>>> >>>>> A true mantis kung fu character would be nice also. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Eiji and Lin should return! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir < >>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I predixiate a "new" KOF game building off the remains of 12 and >>>>> 13... mostly 13. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/jun/30/another-king-fighters-title-works-snk-files-new-trademark-kof/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That's the consensus at the moment. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:49 AM, greattekkenmaster < >>>>> greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi guys I got a new phone.. I saw the video of Dee jay . it looks >>>>> bad,, but is he really bottom tier??? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>>> Subject: RE: USF4 changes! >>>>> From: lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> CC: >>>>> >>>>> not mweb , I meant mtn >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 10:03:54 +0200 >>>>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes! >>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> *lol* I'm at work LB :P >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tsek, when are we playing Magicka? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:01 AM, lindsey kiviets < >>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> why don't you gesels? >>>>> >>>>> damn lurker >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:58:01 +0200 >>>>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes! >>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The 26th of July. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:36 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> tsek, >>>>> >>>>> you see my fgc avatar? its pittifull :( >>>>> >>>>> @sap, when is the 5v5? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:27:07 +0200 >>>>> > Subject: Re: USF4 changes! >>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > Tsek Diablo. >>>>> > >>>>> ========================================================================= >>>>> > You are subscribed to the Cape Town Fighting Game Community mailing >>>>> list. >>>>> > >>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/cpt-fgc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally >>>>> privileged. 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