Re: Fw: RE: USF4 changes!

  • From: Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 15:20:05 +0200

They still play differently from each other.
Their moves are also animated differently.
It's like Kyo and Iori, both are pushdown both have fireballs,
DP's and a running move(hcb+k) but still end up being different overall.


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> To me she falls in the same group.
> I'm not following canon here.
> If you look at her attacks alone, a DP that trails ice - like K' with fire.
> Kicked projectile - Like K''s 2nd motion from his qcf+P, qcf+K command.
> Close proximity flame/ice... slide move....
> Yah, similar.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> http://snk.wikia.com/wiki/Kula_Diamond
>>
>> Kula Diamond is one of the plot characters in KOF 2000
>> Why would a sub-boss(Kula) be a failed clone of a failure/traitor(K')?
>> Sure the design is similar as the story says but they are more like the
>> opposites of each other.
>> She was supposed to stop him and the project was dubbed anti - K'.
>> Her nickname is the 'Ice doll' so I'm still not sure why you see flames
>> around her.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I mean Chample.
>>> I will become chample.
>>>
>>> ​
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 July 2014 13:48, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tung Fu Rue (タン フー ルー *Tan Fū Rū*?
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets>
>>>> , Chinese <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_language>: 糖胡芦; Pinyin
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin>: Táng Hú-Lú) is one of the first
>>>> four opponents the players faces in the original *Fatal Fury*. (When
>>>> either Andy or Terry defeats him in "Fatal Fury Special," each Bogard
>>>> brother addresses him as "Master Tan.") He is an elderly martial arts
>>>> master from China who developed his own fighting style based on *Bājíquán
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C4%81j%C3%ADqu%C3%A1n>* known as the
>>>> Holy Fist of Eight Ways (八極聖拳 *Hakkyokuseiken*?
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets>).
>>>> In the past, he trained Terry and Andy's adoptive father, Jeff Bogard,
>>>>
>>>> I think this threw me off :)
>>>> So technically Terry is a self fought street fighter a.k.a. the lone
>>>> wolf.
>>>> I still feel he is not a brawler like Franco Bash or Shen Woo.
>>>> Everything he does is straight up martial arts inspired, he has a code,
>>>> self control and he has trade mark moves.
>>>> He later mentored Geese's son Rock Howard so to me he is more of a
>>>> martial artist than a wild street brawler.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I dunno about later on, but Terry was self-trained at the start.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SNK (1991-12-20). * Fatal Fury: King of Fighters*. Neo Geo. SNK.
>>>>> Level/area: Terry Bogard background. "After the death of his father, Jeff
>>>>> Bogard, a talented martial arts, Terry left his home in Southtown. Angered
>>>>> and alone, he trained vigrously and improved on his street fighting style.
>>>>> On the streets, Terry fought with talented fighters from all areas and
>>>>> developed his own domination fighting style. Years of training, fighting 
>>>>> on
>>>>> the streets, and the hatred that burned within him strengthened his will 
>>>>> to
>>>>> come back and defeat his sworn enemy, Geese."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Manase Zote
>>>>> *Sent:* 01 July 2014 1:30 PM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Fw: RE: USF4 changes!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kula a flame user?
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought Terry Bogard was some sort of martial artist, he even had a
>>>>> master.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both Athena and Kensue Psycho power since their team is dubbed psycho
>>>>> soldier.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vice is a pure grappler bra.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chinese boxing doesn't exist , I mean we are not the living in
>>>>> 60's/70's anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just want to see some old characters make a comeback but we all know
>>>>> not all of them will.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would also like to see new comers like Hwa Jai from Fatal Fury, and
>>>>> completely new characters(KOF exclusive ones) like Iori, Kyo, Elizabeth,
>>>>> Daolon etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like characters that are really unique/completely new not
>>>>> really limited by style/archetype(boxing, grappler, zoning) or appearance
>>>>> like flames or weapons etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if they are flame users/martial artist/from the military or Ninjas
>>>>> it really doesn't matter as long as they are new to the series and are not
>>>>> based on existing characters as clones or masters/students.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>          There are already 3 ninjas.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't mind seeing a different AOF crowd either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's take a look at what we have.
>>>>>
>>>>> 6 Playable "Flame" users -  Both Kyos, Ex Iori, K', Kula Ash. 7 if you
>>>>> count Saiki in this group.
>>>>>
>>>>> A lightning user - Beni
>>>>>
>>>>> A Judo practitioner
>>>>>
>>>>> 3 "brawlers" - Terry, Shen. Maxima
>>>>>
>>>>> 3 Ninjas -  Mai, Andy, Duolon
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 Odd power users - Athena, Elizabeth
>>>>>
>>>>> A Weapon User - Billy
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 "slashy" fighters Mature and Claw Iori.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5 Karatekas -  Both Takumas, Ryo, Robert, Yuri
>>>>>
>>>>> A Vice - aaaahhhhhh dunno what to call her style.
>>>>>
>>>>> A taekwondo practitioner - Kim
>>>>>
>>>>> 3 Kickboxers - King, Joe, Hwa Jai
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 Wrestler - Raiden
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 Chinese Boxers - Chin, Kensou.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3 Military - Ikari team
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If we take that 3 is the max for most users then I rationalize this
>>>>>
>>>>> Enough flame users, some will go missing. Bye-bye Ash and Saiki
>>>>>
>>>>> Pop Beni in with Athena and Elizabeth - 3 reached
>>>>>
>>>>> Judo user? Pure sportsmen needed! Wrestling! Boxing! Jujitsu!
>>>>>
>>>>> Brawlers - Meh... enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ninjas - Enough
>>>>>
>>>>> Weapon users - Kubotan? Whip? Switchblade? Toreos Sword?!??!? (lol)
>>>>> they have been used before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Slashy player needed - Freeman from Garou?
>>>>>
>>>>> Enough with the "karate" lot.  If Takuma retires, we reach 3.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vice - I have no idea where to pair her style up with.  Yamazaki
>>>>> Perhaps.
>>>>>
>>>>> More Taekwondo lot could be cool.  Chae lim, Dong Hwan, Jae Hoon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Enough Kickboxers
>>>>>
>>>>> More wrestlers are perhaps an option I suppose Tizoc., but I'd like to
>>>>> see Ramon, because he was a true Luchador.
>>>>>
>>>>> A spot for a Chinese boxer... GATOOOOOO!
>>>>>
>>>>> Military is taken care of.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if I were to round things up nicely
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd add A Garou team Freeman, Tizoc and Gato.
>>>>>
>>>>> An agent team. Ramon, Vanessa and Seth.
>>>>>
>>>>> not because they are my favorites, but because their fighting style
>>>>> balance makes sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I had to bring in new characters.  A Jujitsu practitioner would be
>>>>> interesting.  A Shaolin too.  It would make a nice "new Masters" team.
>>>>>
>>>>> A true mantis kung fu character would be nice also.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Eiji and Lin should return!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I predixiate a "new" KOF game building off the remains of 12 and
>>>>> 13... mostly 13.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/jun/30/another-king-fighters-title-works-snk-files-new-trademark-kof/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  That's the consensus at the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:49 AM, greattekkenmaster <
>>>>> greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys I got a new phone.. I saw the video of Dee jay . it looks
>>>>> bad,, but is he really bottom tier???
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: RE: USF4 changes!
>>>>> From: lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> CC:
>>>>>
>>>>> not mweb , I meant mtn
>>>>>
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 10:03:54 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> *lol* I'm at work LB :P
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tsek, when are we playing Magicka?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:01 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  why don't you gesels?
>>>>>
>>>>> damn lurker
>>>>>
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:58:01 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The 26th of July.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:36 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  tsek,
>>>>>
>>>>> you see my fgc avatar? its pittifull :(
>>>>>
>>>>> @sap, when is the 5v5?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:27:07 +0200
>>>>> > Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tsek Diablo.
>>>>> >
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