Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:57:37 +0200

I won't be surprised if Millia does the lowest damage in the game right
now.  I don't see them nerfing her damage.  And, where it takes her 4
mixups to kill, she dies in 2.5 (see: Slayer).  The reason I think nerfing
her meter gain use is perhaps the best option is because if she lands one
mixup, she'll certainly have enough meter to RC a bad overhead read.  So
the opponent stays in the same situation (RC dash -> guess between
overhead, low or throw - guess wrong and she builds enough meter to do the
same thing again).  With a meter gain nerf she'll have to think more
carefully about whether or not to force a mixup, or to back up and zone
with 6H or maybe bait a reversal.



On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Damage nerf?
> Keeps gameplay the same but she needs to hit more mixups in order to kill.
>
>
> That or add recovery to her oki options. (Disc thing etc.)
> Ie force her use YRC if she wants good oki.
>
> Same can be done for most of the top tiers.  "Force" them to implement YRC
> to be effective.
>
> Think it was ogawa who said that the difference between the top tiers and
> the rest of the cast is that they dont need meter to be dangerous.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:44:42 +0000
>
>
> that's true.
>
> millia is fkd either way, too strong or too useless.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:42:24 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > just take one of those away then she becomes fair
>
> Then she becomes useless...
>
> Think about it - what does she have that makes her strong?  Nothing but
> her knockdown mixups.  She can fish all day with 6H and land nothing if the
> opponent just blocks.  Her double air dash complements her neutral game in
> that it forces the opponent to focus on two angles of attack.
>
> What you're suggesting is like saying "take Blanka's hop away and it will
> make him fair".
>
> And remember, she was *stronger* in the previous versions and still
> wasn't the best character in the game.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:38 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> but that's how she is played even from the old versions.
>
> I think having a double dash and double jump makes her op , just take one
> of those away then she becomes fair
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:14:02 +0200
>
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> I think if they nerf Millia it might be her meter build and/or her
> Chroming Rose super (not that it's really strong).  There's no other way to
> nerf her without destroying her as a character.  They'll have to rethink
> her playstyle if they want to nerf her mixups.
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Redbull announced a fighting game event called Redbull Kumite.
> Details are sparse at the moment
> http://www.redbullkumite.com/
>
> They need to tweak that clash counter time thing. either remove it or make
> it less random.
> And then give characters old moves they are missing, like Slayer's big
> bang upper.
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Sameegh Jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Lol, hell no :p
>
> On 23 Jan 2015, at 10:12 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Buff my waifu!
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:52:38 +0200
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> There's nothing broken about him *lol*
>
> He's a solid character but l'd hardly say he can be played in a brain dead
> manner. He has great tools and damage but you still need to manage his
> calorie meter well to get the most out of him. If he could free cancel
> without calorie meter, he'd be broken.
> On 23 Jan 2015 09:39, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I think sin will be broken at arcades. he is definetly an underused
> character.
>
> there is something very broken about him.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 07:19:49 +0000
>
> New location tests for starting in Feb for arcade version of Xrd.
>
> They adding console chars to the arcade version and rebalancing the whole
> cast.
>
> Tests only start in Feb...  no idea when it will eventually filter over to
> console.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 06:02:41 +0000
>
> morning peeps,
>
> I believe the new hotness with 2.1.2 monk is having no spirit generators.
>
> sigh , I need to get on that new torch 2h wep.
>
> Whats happening tomorrow?
>
> Mario kart 8 player ?
>
> xrd ranbat?
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 21:37:49 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Good stuff
> On 22 Jan 2015 18:52, "Stephen Scheidel" <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> C Rayz always making SF references.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqJGD8bVor8
>
> On 22 January 2015 at 15:02, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Used to see that allot in reloaded.  Especially if you get pot in the
> corner.
>
> His backdash avoids allot of stuff
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 14:30:32 +0200
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> I managed to backdash jump-ins, so it must be pretty good.
>  On 22 Jan 2015 09:44, "Wynand-Ben" <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Isnt it POTs backdash that has like 20f invul with 1f recovery or
> something?
>
> Backdash potbuster ruins lives
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 23:30:15 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Ya, any excuse to expose... myself.  I guess?
> he he.
>
> I think you absorbed the lion's share of tech there Lumi.  You saw what
> works, you'll be able to deal with most of my bs now.
>
> Sap's Chipp is doing his mixups well, his character has evolved.  There
> are some holes in his new tech I'd like to explore (just used my hentai
> imagination on that last bit of sentence structure... laughed my ass off),
> but looking solid.
>
> I have no idea how Salie learns shit, because he changes everything about
> his playstyle as soon as one thing doesn't work.  It feels to me like he
> scraps everything and starts over.  It still works tho, I just don't really
> know how to help him than just answer his questions.  Possibly the only
> thing I can help with is that both my characters have supers that "shield"
> and "lash" and that he needs to watch for both.
>
> Manase gets unlucky in the throw department.  His gunflame pressure has
> become less of a threat.
> We should practice lab, like I did with Lumi.
>
> Khan....
> Teleports backwards get you killed.
> That axe-kick gets you killed.
> and soon
> That ducking low kick after your pressure game, will get you killed.
> Your teleport cross-up during pressure will work on Axl, not on Pot.  Pot
> auto-corrects his armor move, and you've seen me use pot-buster by
> reversing the command.
>
> and I've put together moves that work as follow ups for burst attempts, I
> think you guys may have picked up that you were getting owned after your
> bursts.  So, with Pot, I'd do a RC after his buster, and most times you'll
> do a burst after my first RC hit, which I absorb using armor, then I
> Pot-buster.
> That means you've just eaten 2 busters...clean.
> On 21 Jan 2015 22:33, "sameegh jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Thanks for hosting us at your place tonight Khan, the session was all
> good!
>
> Most of the evening involved getting bodied by Nic but I think we all
> picked up a few things which was cool. Thanks again for helping us get a
> closer look at some of your options Nic, it should hopefully allow us to
> give you better games and level the scene one move at a time :]
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:20 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> i just thought of something really funny
>
> consider percy yelling "hey" (in the, someone is stealing my bike tone)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 18:26:36 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> New aesop ep get it in!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAljP_xggMc&index=2&list=PLG433upJRwe7rz4_ZXDWDWrxFVEpKzAcb
>
> On 21 January 2015 at 18:25, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Jeebers.
> On 21 Jan 2015 12:32, "Ashraf Barendse" <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> KOF XIII Yacheng Cup (2015/1/18, in China)
> Grand Final Madkof vs Xiaohai
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQabH32ETmc
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> What time are people going through tonight?
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:22 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> what about tonight?
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 12:20:28 +0200
>
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> lol, you'll be playing Millia within 5 minutes on Saturday.
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:17 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> yes till someone finds away to stop 6HS
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 12:13:04 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> Are you maining Slayer?
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:04 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> I had 2-3f with khan and he got bopped.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 12:01:31 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> With 9f of lag any character is braindead.
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> It's great until you ID it.
> On 21 Jan 2015 10:35, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> you will be seeing it tonight
>
> 6HS best move in da game.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 10:34:20 +0200
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Yeah l want to see this 6HS spamming Slayer.
> On 21 Jan 2015 10:09, "Wynand-Ben" <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> LB Slayer exhibition matches this saturday?
>
> ------------------------------
> From: lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 07:45:36 +0000
>
> not me , everyone else.
>
> u r included in this list.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:22:09 +0200
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> *lol* Something tells me you get hit by 6HS way too often.
> On 21 Jan 2015 09:18, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> come online at khan's house then.
>
> then you can witness me pooning everyone with slayer.
>
> slayer is so easy to play , lmao,
>
> this is how you play slayer:
>
> Flowchart
> 6HS - Hit - do another 6HS
> 6HS - Miss - do another 6HS
> !@#%$@$% answer 6HS you input a dandy step here and there if you get
> bored.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:12:35 +0200
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Offline sesh at Khany's tonight man. We can play again tomorrow.
>
> Since when do you play Slayer *lol*
> On 21 Jan 2015 09:10, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> thanks sap.
>
> you must come get yours tonight. I am number wan slayer on server.
>
> youl die quick coz you take more dmg than any other character in the game.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 08:42:32 +0200
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Bring your drive on Sat, you can get it from me.
> On 21 Jan 2015 07:20, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> oh btw, thanks ogrs for that website.
>
> tried to get DS2 but the file is only 16mb. wtf? wheres the game
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 07:06:53 +0200
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: euraima@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Tsek, slayer dabes. You only getting free 6H online, try it offline.
> On 21 Jan 2015 6:22 AM, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> if millia is braindead then salyer is a veg.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 03:38:29 +0000
>
> Uh... Hadn't realised that either.
>
>  *From*: Manase Zote [mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent*: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:55 PM South Africa Standard Time
> *To*: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject*: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
> Lol
> On 20 Jan 2015 23:44, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Epic facepalm.
>
>  I only just realised Zato~One = Zato Ichi = Zatoichi = The blind
> swordsman.
>
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