Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 18:22:40 +0200

Learn the matchup.

On 21 April 2015 at 18:21, richard moorcroft <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Sorry Di I know you like your capos,, but I got a few words to say to the
Capos,, THEY MUST PISS OFF,, I don't like capos that's all., I don't get
why capos are still in TEKKEN ,, I mean eddy abandoned Jin in T6,, he
thinks he is dead,, Christy is I don't know how she fits in the TEKKEN
story,, so they are rather quite useless at this point
On Apr 21, 2015 6:08 PM, "Di Lhong" <marongdin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Bruce is now Josie and Lee is Katarina...all this gender changes haha

Hopefully this give Bruce, Lee and Capos a good chance of a total
redesign in gameplay.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
wrote:

Kill myself.

On 21 April 2015 at 18:03, Di Lhong <marongdin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Lee is now Katarina. What are you going to do? lolz

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

T7 must come out now so you guys can stop torturing yourselves with
this chicken neck MK game.

:P

On 21 April 2015 at 18:00, Di Lhong <marongdin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

cancelling last recovery frame into block might explain why some of
my rolls aren't punishing -7 moves...but sometimes it does...

Tested with subz's slide which is 8frames. So some -7 DO get punished
by rolls but no slides (in case they frame data was wrong but it wasn't)

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Potentially safe blockstrings *lol*
On 21 Apr 2015 17:55, "Di Lhong" <marongdin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Why Mileena's Sai? :(

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Ryan Williams <
ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I can confirm this. Tried punishing Mileena's Sai, which is -10 on
block, with a 10 frame move. Doesn't work.
On 21 Apr 2015 17:50, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I just read that you can cancel the last recovery frame into
blocking, and that blocking requires 1f to transition to normal,
except for
reversals.

So to punish a -10f move, you need a 8f normal, or a 9f reversal
special.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Di Lhong <marongdin@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Oh, maybe that's the case...will have to test it out.

I'm assume you can because you can throw them during combos...my
bad.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Wynand-Ben <
paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Eh... im fairly sure you cant throw jumping opponents.

You can throw juggled opponents tho.

Or I misunderstood something

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:26:35 +0200

Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
From: marongdin@xxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

- Will check trip guard.
- Tech throws = throw break? normal throws can be broken even
in combos. However, you have to guess which button i think in
general for
throw break (like tekken). Either punches or kick.
- Will check cancel landing frames.
- Will check input buffer for landing frames. However you can
input buffer during block strings as reversals.

- You can throw opponent in the air. so pre-jump frames to
avoid jumps might not be work. But cross up works. They'll throw
the
direction your character jump from (if they do the throw early).
If they do
the throw late and your opponent's character register you're over
them,
they'll turn around to throw on the right direction. Takes a few
frames for
them to turn around if they hold block. But you can't attack from
their
behind. (i think it's for input purposes)
- you can't do tigerknee shortcuts for aerial moves. eg. old
mileena's airsai can be done by ub~f+1 or qcb~ub~f+1. Now it's
jump first
then bf+1. This is mileena's case, not sure about the rest. Also
did this
on pad. Not stick. There's an option you can input slide notation
instead
of the df+2. with this option, doing df+2 won't do a fireball but
qcf+2
will.
-Will check on input buffer after jump cancel.
- I think input reverse do exist but haven't really see it yet.
It takes a few frames for the character to register if the
opponent is
behind them. So if you did a fireball while Mileena teleports
behind you.
You will qcf+2 for fireball the wrong direction first before you
get qcb+2.


On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Ilitirit Sama <
ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

My own personal check list for testing jumping mechanics:

- Does it have trip guard? If you do an empty jump can you
block as soon as you land, or does it have recovery?

- Can you tech throws as soon as you land from a jump? On
empty and non-empty jumps?

- Can you cancel landing frames ie. go from landing straight
into normal/special/block/jump. On empty and non-empty jumps?

- Do landing frames have an input buffer? If you press a
button on the first frame of landing vs last frame of landing,
will the
move come out on the first available frame?

- Do "fuzzies" exist? If you hit someone with a high-hitting
attack and then immediately with a jumping attack, will they get
hit if
they crouch block, even if under normal circumstances the move
will whiff?

- How many pre-jump frames are there? Can you get thrown out
of them? Can you cancel them into special moves? If it has throw
invulnerability, does cancelling them keep them keep the throw
invincibility? Test by doing QCF UF + button.

- Does landing from a jump cancel your input buffer? In other
words, can you jump, do QCF before you land, then press a button
as you
land to get a special move?

- At which point does the game consider your inputs
"reversed"? In other words, if you jump over the opponent, then
do QCB and
a button, is it considered a QCF? Test with characters who have
aerial
moves.





On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Di Lhong <marongdin@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Not 100% on jumping distances. But hitboxes and walk/run speed
is unique to each character.

Will test it out a bit more. Some character's jump do have a
float like effect. Like Kung Jin's. Not sure if it's just aesthetic
purposes or it does have actual properties.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Ilitirit Sama <
ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

What are the jumping distances and hitboxes like? In SF,
characters f.jump and b.jump distances are not the same. You can
exploit
this to set up magic jumps (empty jumps where you can confirm an
opponent's
action, and if they try to AA you it will whiff).

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Wynand-Ben <
paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Im fairlyt sure I have mentioned this earlier...

Characters have different hitboxes. So stuff hits differently.

Same with bigger characters its sometimes harder to jump over
or run under them.

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 15:43:11 +0200
Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
From: marongdin@xxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTKEsIwjyxI

i've come to notice that females have smaller hurtbox/height.
Making some combo or moves land harder...instant air sais will
wiff easily
on girls -_-

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Ryan Williams <
ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

10000$ wtf
On 21 Apr 2015 15:26, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Super Santouraman (maybe 2nd best Sagat in Japan) is
challenging Luffy to a $10000 money match at Stun Fest.

https://twitter.com/RyanJosephHart/status/590193244279070720

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Ilitirit Sama <
ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Which game?

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:24 PM, lindsey kiviets <
lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I cant do in 720p :(

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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 13:38:31 +0200
Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


Anything your heart desires. Even combos in 2D fighters like
Guardian Heroes, or silly stuff like Final Fight infinites. We
should just
standardise on certain things like resolution and quality.
Preferably
nothing less than 720p.



On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

What you need?
I have a Potempkin Destroyed Combo
Quan-Chi's good-looking combo.
Some Jojo.
Ken's Rage...?

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Ilitirit Sama <
ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Whose up for doing a CTS 2015 combo video?



















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