RE: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: "Donaldson, Alasdair" <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 09:07:14 +0000

Actually that's true. Loved both games for different reasons.

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From: Manase Zote<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎25 10:11
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Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail

That is why I put 1 and 3 together because they have all the great things we 
know and love about the DMC series.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I struggled to finish 2 and not because of difficulty.
3's gameplay was the best, but I preferred 1's story.

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From: lindsey 
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Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎25 09:57
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Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail

3se was the best, then 1.

2 is not a dmc game and I didn't like the grapple thing in 4.

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 09:42:05 +0200
Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>


2 was rubbish unless you played as Trish... then it was a polished Turd.

I liked 4. The grapple for Nero made the game fun.  Too bad Dante was only a 
shade of a character in it.  It was like a healf-hearted DMC3 copy, done badly.

I still have to play the reboot, but I expect PSN+ to be discounting the PS4 
one soon.
I saw a screen of the new mode in the Updated DMC4, soo many characters on 
screen at once O_o.

My order of high to low is 3, 4, 1, 2... and there is a far gap between 1 and 2 
 :/

On 25 Mar 2015 09:31, "Donaldson, Alasdair" 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
 wrote:
One and three were awesome games. The others were fun, but I just didn't feel 
them as much.

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Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail


DMC 4 was a good game but not as awesome as DMC 3 though.

On 25 Mar 2015 09:23, "Nicholas Robertson-Muir" 
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 wrote:

Looks like Trish is going to be playable too, in that case I expect Gloria to 
be playable as well.

...and t=I was looking for a reason to replay DMC 4 again. Lol.

On 25 Mar 2015 09:18, "Nicholas Robertson-Muir" 
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 wrote:

Guess I'll be getting DMC4 again, lol.
They're going to put DMC3 Virgil (and hopefully his Neo Angelo devil trigger) 
in it.
I'll wait for the bundle special.

On 25 Mar 2015 05:51, "Ilitirit Sama" 
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 wrote:
It's hard to diagnose without seeing what the jump looks like, but these are 
these changes I'd make:

if (place_meeting(x,y,obj_ground))
{
    // This part is tricky.

    // Check your speed - if it's positive, you are falling.
    // Set vsp to 0, and set jump = false;

    // If it's zero, you have initiated a jump.
    // Apply your initial jump force and set jump = true
}
else if ( vsp = 0 ) // We aren't on the ground, but our speed is zero which 
means we've reached the apex of our jump and need to fall
{
    vsp += grav // I've used between 0.2 - 0.5 here

    // Remember, your jump variable may be set here, so you need to have an else
    // or it will run both pieces of code, which is not what you want
}
else if (jump)
{
    // We are jumping, we aren't on the ground, and we haven't reached the apex
    // which means we are either moving upwards or downwards.

    if (vsp < 0)  // We are still moving up
    {
        vsp += <use some variable here - maybe gravity, or gravity * weight>

        // IIRC, Game Maker uses + for downwards and - for upwards.
        // so if our current speed is still negative, we need to slow down
        // by adding a value to vsp until it reaches zero
    }
    else
    {
        // If we've reached this part, it means we are descending from a jump.
        // Apply gravity

        vsp += grav;
    }
}




On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Ryan Williams 
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 wrote:
I agree that 0.2 is very low for gravity. I just used it for testing purposes 
to see if it would make any difference. In my DnD tests, I used 0.5 which 
worked well.

This is what I had before, based on some examples I came across online (just 
for a single jump, which is what I'm currently having gravity issues with:

//Jumping (input for jump set to keyboard_check_pressed(ord("w"))

if (place_meeting(x,y,obj_ground)
{
   vsp = 0; // if object is on ground, there is no vertical speed
}

if (vsp < 10) //10 being the vertical speed
{
  vsp += grav // I've used between 0.2 - 0.5 here
}

if (jump) //custom variable for above input
{
  if (place_meeting(x,y+1,obj_ground)) //if object is one pixel above ground
  {
    vsp = -jumpspd //jumpspd = 10
  }
  else
  {
    vsp = 0
  }
}
y += vsp //required in order for vertical movement to function

I messed around with negative acceleration when I first encountered this 
problem but I think I had other problems with my code at the time; mostly 
related to ground vs object collisions. At present, the gravity functions as 
intended if I add a multiplier to it, but if I raise my vertical speed too high 
(to gain greater upwards momentum), the object rises too fast and the jump 
looks unnatural.





On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Ilitirit Sama 
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 wrote:
Hmmm... how are you implementing gravity?  This is a very common problem but it 
can be due to many different reasons.  First thing I would do is to ensure that 
you're setting your vertical velocity back to zero first when you apply the 
velocity of your double jump.

The simplest method I know of for fake gravity is basically to apply a constant 
negative velocity in the Y direction over time while you aren't on a platform.  
In other words, suppose the platform you're on disappears, then you would apply 
a velocity that is opposite to your gravity variable multiplied by each "step" 
(or frame) your game makes.  So if your "gravity" is 0.2 (this is VERY low), 
then your speed as you fall is:
On frame 1:  (-0.2) * 1 = -0.2 units per second
On frame 2:  (-0.2) * 2 = -0.4 u/s
On frame 3:  (-0.2) * 3 = -0.6 u/s
On frame 4:  (-0.2) * 4 = -0.8 u/s

etc.

This gives you negative acceleration.  I recommend testing it by setting your 
character above the ground and then tweaking the values until you get the 
effect you want.  When you use this method, then for jumping you have to 
completely *ignore* gravity until your Y velocity = zero.  You just apply the 
same scheme in reverse.  In other words, when you press the jump button, you 
set the Y velocity to some positive number that decreases over time.  And when 
you double-jump, remember to set your velocity to zero first, and then apply 
the same scheme.  Once your velocity reaches zero, allow gravity to do its work 
again.

Keep in mind that you typically want high gravity with high velocities.  This 
gives you high jumps with fast fall speeds.


On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Ryan Williams 
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 wrote:

Thanks bro :)

Most of the examples l've seen incorporate some form of jump counter which l've 
been able to implement successfully. For some reason though, my gravity isn't 
working as intended :/ lt's the first time l've experienced this.

If l use the DnD method for gravity, it works perfectly, but l want complete 
control over my objects which is why l'm coding everything. I understand the 
logic of gravity and how it applies to objects in the game world and l've even 
successfully coded it. The only snag now is that my object is seemingly too 
heavy despite my gravity setting not being all that high (currently 0.2). 
What's worse is that the object is floaty on the way down instead of falling 
fast, but the object barely leaves the ground when jumping. I used the same 
values in DnD and the object jumps and lands normally, so there has to be 
something wrong with my code. Have you experienced something similar?

Btw, regarding aerial movement, l want the player character to be able to jump 
and only commit to a single direction while airborne, but change direction 
during a double-jump. The only directions for aerial movement that should apply 
are up, up/forward and up/back. Back and forward must not affect aerial 
movement. I'm basing it on the double-jumping system in Guardian Heroes, which 
functions exactly the same way.

On 24 Mar 2015 22:44, "Ilitirit Sama" 
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 wrote:
I did double-jumping last week.  Ask me anything.  The basic idea is that you 
have a jump counter (2, for a double jump).  You can only jump if the counter 
is above 0.  If you jump, subtract 1 from the counter.  When you hit the 
ground, set the counter back to 2.  The second part of what you're trying to do 
is kinda tricky because you have to consider falling (Can the player change 
directions as they fall?  Can they jump while falling?).  But it's still not 
that hard.  If the jump counter is less than two, then make it so that 
directional inputs have no effect.  If they are in the air and the jump counter 
is 2, make it so that the jumping input has no effect.  This will prevent them 
from jumping while falling from a platform, but still give them air control.  
It all depends on the mechanics of your game.



On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Ryan Williams 
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 wrote:
Busy working on my game engine. I finally have the following down:

  *   Walking
  *   Running
  *   Backdashing
  *   Cancelling run with backdash
  *   Hitbox and hurtbox collisions (with enemy reactions and pushback)
  *   Screen shake during attack impact

I created separate project files for movement and collisions so that I could 
gain a better understanding of how everything works before I add it to my main 
project file.

Currently working on implementing jumping and double-jumping - which is a bitch 
- but I'll get it done. I need to code it in such a way that if the player 
commits to a jump direction, they cannot switch directions mid-air. I'm 
considering adding airdashing *lol* After that, I need to work on combos. 
Single-hitting and chainable attacks are easy. Ensuring that a series of varied 
attacks occur consecutively for 4 individual button presses (think Final Fight 
or Streets of Rage), not so much.

I'd like to finalise the engine before I continue working on my sprites. I have 
the walk animation down for my main character but I still need to complete 
animations for running, jumping, backdashing, guarding and attacking.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Manase Zote 
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 wrote:
You mean the 'Musou' genre created and perfected by Koei now Tecmo+Koei?

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir 
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 wrote:

So, I was thinking.
Ken's Rage is a bit of a "kuso" game, I know, but I love it anyways.
I was just thinking of how awesome a game type it would be for something like a 
Golden Axe game.

I would love a North meets East clash of Barbarians VS Samurai and Ninjas.

On 24 Mar 2015 15:20, "Di Lhong" 
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 wrote:
I have this movie. I personally enjoyed it.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Ryan Williams 
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 wrote:
@Paas and Manase, this is the Stephen Chow movie I was talking about.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2017561/

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM, lindsey kiviets 
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 wrote:
NZ dgaf

> From: 
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> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:23:08 +0000

>
> With one friggin ball remaining. Sigh. Really?
>
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> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
> Esidkao
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015, euraima tobias 
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>  wrote:
>
> Wtf, so this is what he does when we not sessioning O.o
>
> "the wondering mascot"
>
> On 24 Mar 2015 7:02 AM, "Stephen Scheidel" 
> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
>  wrote:
> [cid:ii_i7mtl4dd0_14c4a1bbd40ca282]
> ​
>
> On 24 March 2015 at 06:24, lindsey kiviets 
> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
>  wrote:
> WOOOP
>
> 7 dandy mappa's in 1 combo
>
> GGXrd 1.10 - Slayer combos<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKRy2tEOmOc>
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 18:18:33 +0200
>
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
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>
> Enough about kuk old rpg's though.
>
> Everyone chill the fuck out and listen to some Origa.
> Chouchou San By Origa<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_rSLoufsdY>
>
> On 23 March 2015 at 18:16, Stephen Scheidel 
> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
>  wrote:
> Yeah at face value the combat is kaka.(combat is not why anyone plays elder 
> scrolls)
> To have fun with it you just have to see the "combat" as a representation of 
> combat based on your stats and equip.
> It's basically a tabletop game with a huge and deep system set in a giant 3d 
> world.
> That would leave the character as the translator between the game world and 
> the game system.
> Maybe to get the characters to physically adhere to all the shit going on was 
> just too hard so they kept it in the background.
> That may be the trade off.
>
> Skyrim - Most of the aspects of the character are represented on screen but 
> it is more simple than Morrowind.
> Morrowind - Very little of the character aspects are represented on screen 
> but that allows them to go wild with the sytem.
>
> On 23 March 2015 at 17:39, Wynand-Ben 
> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
>  wrote:
> To a certain degree I am... I do really think that the combat in elder 
> scrolls games need help tho.
>
> Morrowinds calculations are cool and definitely puts it above stuff like 
> Skyrim... but thats not saying much imo.
>
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> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:15:18 +0200
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> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
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>
> Ag nevermind.
> I know you just like playing devils advocate.
>
> On 23 March 2015 at 15:14, Stephen Scheidel 
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>  wrote:
> But you build your character by leveling and getting new stuff and that 
> determines what each click does.
>
>
> On 23 March 2015 at 13:46, Wynand-Ben 
> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
>  wrote:
> How the numbers are generated doesnt really make the combat better imo.
>
> In a turn based game the calcualtions would be cool... seeing whats going to 
> happen and comparing options.
>
> But if the game does everything for you in the background without you even 
> knowing then all the player is left with is click to attack.
>
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> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 13:30:05 +0200
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> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
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>
> The combat is great if you keep in mind the system that is generating the 
> numbers.
> Just watch that vid I posted.
>
> On 23 March 2015 at 11:38, Wynand-Ben 
> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
>  wrote:
> Det combat... :(
>
> I loved the custom spells you could create in morrowind tho
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:34:05 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
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>
>
> Morrowind would be my ultimate example of an open world RPG done perfectly.
>
> On Monday, March 23, 2015, Stephen Scheidel 
> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
>  wrote:
> Started playing morrowind again.
>
> Game is so gieroad.
>
> On Monday, March 23, 2015, Wynand-Ben 
> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
>  wrote:
> Only 1 char.
>
>
> Regarding MKX I am still torn about where to get the game... PC or PS4.
>
> > From: 
> > alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > To: 
> > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 08:16:49 +0000
> >
> > Ah okay. Do you control the party or just one char?
> >
> > Bt games doesn't have any Mk preorder options barring vanilla. Oh well.
> >
> > Sent from my Windows Phone
> > ________________________________
> > From: 
> > Wynand-Ben<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎23 09:44
> > To: 
> > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> >
> > System is fine but odd. Its actiony but not totally... not as is DMC type 
> > shit etc.
> >
> > You got attack button and a special button.
> > You customize the attack button strings properties depending on what you 
> > are fighting (What weapon to use for Initial hit, barrage, finisher, 
> > counter attack or jumping attack).
> > Special attack for each weapon type. Dragoon jump thing etc. etc.
> > Dodging takes MP, specials take MP, sword teleport takes MP.
> >
> > Think they mentioned there being spells but werent available in the demo.
> >
> > > From: 
> > > alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > > To: 
> > > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> > > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 07:28:10 +0000
> > >
> > > Does the demo have actual play then? System look okay, or not enough time 
> > > to tell?
> > >
> > > Sent from my Windows Phone
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "Wynand-Ben" 
> > > <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎23 09:23
> > > To: 
> > > "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>"
> > >  
> > > <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> > >
> > > Its probably not in the bloody demo lol
> > >
> > > Demo was great imo. Just need to work on the framerate and camera a bit.
> > > Rest is fine.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: 
> > > lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > > To: 
> > > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> > > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 07:04:31 +0000
> > >
> > >
> > > my expectations are spot on.
> > >
> > > But so much hype cant be all for nothing.
> > >
> > > where is that epic cutscene of noctis coming out of a cathedral then 
> > > beating the crap outa everyone with his mind control... ( I remember paas 
> > > showing it to us back at OC once in 2009)
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: 
> > > > alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > > > To: 
> > > > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > > > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> > > > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 06:59:46 +0000
> > > >
> > > > Been playing Type Zero. Funny seeing it blown up on a big screen. Still 
> > > > no net access, so haven't dl the FF15 demo.
> > > >
> > > > @lb - sounds like you have unrealistic expectations for the new FF. 
> > > > Don't you remember 12 or 13?
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my Windows Phone
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: lindsey 
> > > > kiviets<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > > Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎23 08:43
> > > > To: 
> > > > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> > > >
> > > > its a good thing you didn't play the demo of ff15 lumi.
> > > >
> > > > I was watching max's stream this morning and it wasn't looking all that 
> > > > exciting tbh.
> > > >
> > > > This game has been in the making for too long and when the hype is much 
> > > > higher than the end product = fail
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 08:39:38 +0200
> > > > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> > > > From: 
> > > > nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>>
> > > > To: 
> > > > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > no problem.
> > > >
> > > > On 23 Mar 2015 07:55, "lindsey kiviets" 
> > > > <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>>
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > thanks nic
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 07:50:58 +0200
> > > > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> > > > From: 
> > > > nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > > To: 
> > > > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://account.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/liquid/cam/account/devices/media-devices-confirm-deactivate.action
> > > >
> > > > Go to account -> media and devices.
> > > >
> > > > On 23 Mar 2015 06:00, "lindsey kiviets" 
> > > > <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>>
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > ey nick,ps3,
> > > >
> > > > Please direct me to that site where I can deactivate all on the ps3, 
> > > > its for an HK account.
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 15:40:22 +0200
> > > > Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> > > > From: 
> > > > nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > > To: 
> > > > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh, good point.
> > > >
> > > > On 22 Mar 2015 14:04, "Moshe Shevel" 
> > > > <jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Isn't he considered a 'returning' character since he was in the Vita 
> > > > version of MK9?
> > > >
> > > > On 22 Mar 2015 12:18 PM, "Nicholas Robertson-Muir" 
> > > > <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Tremor...
> > > > Hmmm...
> > > > Not really a "returning" character.
> > > >
> > > > On 21 Mar 2015 19:37, "Di Lhong" 
> > > > <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > Current mock up for roster:
> > > >
> > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/1610902_792583024173205_6426343917256515438_n.jpg?oh=77fbfbd1158246d0aa209e0cf9bb0edf&oe=55721CF7&__gda__=1438219632_ff539b1bbddcf2cb829c10729e663c5a
> > > >
> > > > Didn't they say there's 4 returning classic characters? Tremor + Tanya 
> > > > is 2. Who can the other 2 be?
> > > >
> > > > Nightwolf + Sindel? :D
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Moshe Shevel 
> > > > <jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > They can do it the same way they did it in MK 9 where the one slot 
> > > > would be for all DLC's. So they'll probably use the slot Goro is on for 
> > > > all DLC
> > > >
> > > > On 21 Mar 2015 12:26 PM, "Wynand-Ben" 
> > > > <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>>
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > Awesome...
> > > >
> > > > That means there is still hope for Nightwolf!
> > > >
> > > > :P
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 03:55:56 +0200
> > > > Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> > > > From: 
> > > > geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > > To: 
> > > > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > > >
> > > > Predator DLC Reveal Final<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBKwuQDzCuU>
> > > >
> > > > Wonder how they'll fit everyone in the character selection screen...cos 
> > > > this is exceeding the spots already :/
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Di Lhong 
> > > > <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xft1/t31.0-8/s720x720/11054468_792356710862503_9183588001103826932_o.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Tanya and Tremor?
> > > >
> > > > Cool. Wonder what Tanya will be like.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tanya, Tremor, Predator and Jason Voorhees make up the Kombat Pack for 
> > > > Mortal Kombat<https://www.facebook.com/MortalKombat> X! Press release:
> > > >
> > > > "As a follow up to announcing the Mortal Kombat X Kombat Pack playable 
> > > > character, Jason Voorhees, today, Warner Bros. Interactive 
> > > > Entertainment confirmed the additional playable characters that will be 
> > > > included in the Kombat Pack: the ultimate hunter Predator from the 
> > > > films of the same name as well as Klassic Mortal Kombat Kombatants 
> > > > Tremor and Tanya.
> > > >
> > > > Full Kombat Pack details are listed below:
> > > > The Ultimate Horror Pack
> > > > Playable character Jason Voorhees
> > > > Horror skins Vampiress Mileena, Kraken Reptile and Pharaoh Ermac
> > > > The Klassic Pack #1:
> > > > Playable character Tanya
> > > > Klassic skins for Kano, Sonya and Liu Kang
> > > > The Predator / Prey Pack:
> > > > Playable character Predator
> > > > Predator-themed skins Commando Johnny, Infrared Scorpion and Carl 
> > > > Weathers as Jax
> > > > The Klassic Pack #2:
> > > > Playable character, Tremor
> > > > Klassic skins for Quan Chi, Jax and Kung Lao
> > > >
> > > > In the Americas, the Kombat Pack is included in the Mortal Kombat X 
> > > > Kollector’s Edition by Coarse, Limited Edition and Premium Edition, and 
> > > > will be available for purchase separately for $29.99.**
> > > > Starting April 14, 2015, when Mortal Kombat X launches worldwide, fans 
> > > > who purchase the Kombat Pack will receive the Samurai Pack containing 
> > > > three new character skins: Ronin Kenshi, Samurai Shinnok and Jingu 
> > > > Kitana, as well as an accompanying skin pack with each playable 
> > > > character. In addition, those who own the pack will gain early access 
> > > > to the above listed content before it is available for sale 
> > > > individually."
> > > >
> > > > Guess Liu Kang is confirmed then...eh.
> > > > There's 2 Kombat Pack? do we get all if we buy the Kombat Pack or do we 
> > > > have to purchase them twice to both Tanya+Predator and Tremor+Jason?
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Di Lhong 
> > > > <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > Does anyone know a website that i can use to download 60fps vids off 
> > > > YouTube?
> > > >
> > > > Clipconverter.cc doesn't allow age restricted video...
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Ilitirit Sama 
> > > > <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/mar/20/capcom-location-testing-new-ultra-street-fighter-4-controller-s-optimized-rufuss-focus-attack-cancel-grab/
> > > >
> > > > Good idea. IIRC only Tekken machines used to have ports for PS2 
> > > > controllers. All arcade machines should allow pads. Only problem is 
> > > > Capcom will probably only allow their controllers to be connected. 
> > > > Still, it's better than nothing.
> > > >
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