Awesome, thanks. So 4 frame safe jump is sort of the range one is looking for ideally generally speaking. Sol has that neutral jump after knockdown if I'm remembering correctly :p > On 12 Mar 2015, at 1:38 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Yeah they work like in SF, > Most invincible reversals(full invincibility) are 4 frames or slower and can > be safe jumped. > Luckily Sol has a 4 frame safe jump set up which is more than enough atm. > >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:31 PM, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> What are the general safe jump ranges in this game as far as frames are >> concerned btw? Like in SF one would start at around 3f for shotos to around >> 7f for characters with slower options. I know Ino has safe jumps options, I >> need to try and find out what they are. I'd imagine FFVCL YRC depending on >> the knockdown but I'll need to research that. >> >>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> 6P, is has a 11 frame start up and it loses to all safe jump ins meaty >>> attacks/projectiles so it will get him killed on wake up. >>> 6P/F+P is more of an anti-air and counter poke. >>> >>> Trishila, >>> Invincible above the knees frames 1-39. 80% forced prorate and it's 25 >>> frame start up, -6 on block doesn't help his cause. >>> I'm not sure if it avoids meaty attacks, needs testing. >>> I still maintain that his best option is backdash into pot-buster. >>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir >>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> F+P >>>> Situational. >>>> >>>> Trishila (that fire-pillar) >>>> Mega fist backwards. >>>> >>>>> On 12 Mar 2015 12:24, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> Like I said backdash is one of your best options on wake up and reversals >>>>> are very tight for every character. >>>>> Let's see what he has for wake up. >>>>> Meter-less reversals, >>>>> Backdash, Hammer fall(or it's cancel), wake up throw(not command grab). >>>>> With meter, >>>>> Both supers, reversal blitz shield(?) >>>>> >>>>> Is there anything else he can do? >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir >>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> Sure, but if you throw in an attack that has active frames on my >>>>>> wake-up, it's going to be really tight. >>>>>> ... >>>>>> ... >>>>>> did I just use "frames" in a discussion? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd prefer an option that gives me an attack that occurs as soon as I am >>>>>> able to move again. >>>>>> I mean, a reversal attack or the such. >>>>>> There are many options. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12 Mar 2015 10:51, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> One of your best wake up tools is backdash. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir >>>>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> I thought about that yesterday, I plan to try something else for >>>>>>>> wakeup... soon. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12 Mar 2015 10:35, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>> makes sense. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> its a really bad matchup for pot. I no can just dance around his >>>>>>>>> metal body on wake up for free. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:30:43 +0200 >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>>>>> From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I thought about last night but it won't really work because flick >>>>>>>>> nullifies the note and any pressure afterward [HCL gets absorbed]. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pot's weakness is that he is free on wakeup imo, I just need to rush >>>>>>>>> him down and try and score some damage when I bait the wakeup supers >>>>>>>>> instead of getting thrown, lol. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:17 AM, lindsey kiviets >>>>>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>> lol in theory it should work. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> all lumi has to do is use yrc note the f!@$!@ outa pot he cant do >>>>>>>>> anything except block. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:11:40 +0200 >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>>>>> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ya, I must substitute my low tier with a slightly higher low tier. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12 Mar 2015 10:00, "Donaldson, Alasdair" >>>>>>>>> <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>> I thought axl was supposed to be low tier as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone >>>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>> From: Nicholas Robertson-Muir<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> Sent: 2015-03-12 09:56 >>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He doesn't feel low tier. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12 Mar 2015 08:01, "lindsey kiviets" >>>>>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> ya lol, dudes dgaf. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> cameraman kept rolling he dgaf either. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Potemkin is low tier bruh, u need to get in dat axel tech >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > From: >>>>>>>>> > alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>>>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 05:54:19 +0000 >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Did anyone else see the SABC guys getting mugged live in TV? Fun >>>>>>>>> > times. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Sent from my Windows Phone >>>>>>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>>>>>> > From: lindsey >>>>>>>>> > kiviets<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>> > Sent: 2015-03-12 07:43 >>>>>>>>> > To: >>>>>>>>> > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > morning peeps, >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > GB r having a timeout from gaming, he concentrating on dat thesis. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > that auusie sk8r is top, he grinds a pipe and then does a flip off >>>>>>>>> > the pipe, 2 hit combo ftw >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>>>>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 07:03:23 +0200 >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > GB returns. >>>>>>>>> > [cid:ii_i75ouyxm0_14c0c5d7affb6346] >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On 11 March 2015 at 18:10, Stephen Scheidel >>>>>>>>> > <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> > One of the sickest skaters right now is an Aussie. >>>>>>>>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1sjuey25ug >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On 11 March 2015 at 18:07, Stephen Scheidel >>>>>>>>> > <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> > Di likes them feral :P >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On 11 March 2015 at 17:06, Di Lhong >>>>>>>>> > <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> > Loving the feral look they gave her: >>>>>>>>> > https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11046867_787964651301709_1373710168499875823_n.jpg?oh=f5c40b0ddb9f0be2fdaeca4b41a3d387&oe=55730CAF&__gda__=1434191895_0b41784d84974df4d300335979aaea87 >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Duke Nukem + Mel Gibson: >>>>>>>>> > https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11054528_787964504635057_1641660292361840553_n.jpg?oh=ada1d2bdc3257b18e0021d43c08da3fa&oe=55BAC5FE&__gda__=1438140227_e082f8b8e0791a363f79e8411600264d >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair >>>>>>>>> > <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> > Better than during work. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Sent from my Windows Phone >>>>>>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>>>>>> > From: lindsey >>>>>>>>> > kiviets<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > Sent: 2015-03-11 15:39 >>>>>>>>> > To: >>>>>>>>> > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > fapping after work is not good >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:36:37 +0200 >>>>>>>>> > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>>>>> > From: >>>>>>>>> > euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>> > To: >>>>>>>>> > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Cool, after 5:30pm would be cool. Just have something to do after >>>>>>>>> > work. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On 11 Mar 2015 3:26 PM, "lindsey kiviets" >>>>>>>>> > <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>> >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> > yes imda bes, >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > I didn't know you believed in me so much. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:17:37 +0200 >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>>>>> > From: >>>>>>>>> > sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > To: >>>>>>>>> > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > lol, that depends on you. You're actually playing well - less >>>>>>>>> > aimless orbs which get you punished like Sap said, better >>>>>>>>> > conversions/damage from her forward k overhead and your win rate >>>>>>>>> > will improve imo. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:31 PM, lindsey kiviets >>>>>>>>> > <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>> >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> > I sense sarcasm in that sentence. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 14:26:10 +0200 >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>>>>> > From: >>>>>>>>> > sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > To: >>>>>>>>> > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Yes but LB's Millia gets stronger every Saturday. At the rate he's >>>>>>>>> > going, he should be the best in around three to four weeks. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>>> > <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>> >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> > Indeed... >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > I could have played a bunch more if Stu didnt abandon me for JHB :P >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > But you will need wait till Saturday to fondle the waifu's grenades >>>>>>>>> > unfortunately >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > :( >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 14:14:52 +0200 >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>>>>> > From: >>>>>>>>> > bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > To: >>>>>>>>> > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Yeah keep running with that waifu of your. lol >>>>>>>>> > I wish we played GG on a daily basis :( >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>>> > <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>> >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> > I am no good for this evening unfortunately :( >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 14:07:59 +0200 >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>>>>> > From: >>>>>>>>> > ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > To: >>>>>>>>> > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > I'll be there. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On 11 Mar 2015 14:03, "euraima tobias" >>>>>>>>> > <euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx>>>> >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Do you guys feel for a session tonight? >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > ********************************************************************** >>>>>>>>> > The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally >>>>>>>>> > privileged. 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