The parry ? On 19 February 2015 at 19:26, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > His Lee Sliding command also df~d~df+3 but have a MUCH longer reach than > Lee Sliding. It has the same range if not slighting more than Raven's BT > ff+3+4 > > During his dash stance df df he can do Wang's b+1,4 > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> I will use the slide :) >> >> On 19 February 2015 at 19:11, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> So much Shaheen footage...i'm already starting to know how to play him >>> lolz >>> >>> Need more Katarina, Chloe footage. >>> >>> Claudio's footage is usually people trying to figure his glowing hand >>> aka "starburst" mech. >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Stephen Scheidel < >>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Di here is some more T7. >>>> Bappara is a OG Japanese Lee expert that I steal from. >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTUFkGtFLoU >>>> >>>> On 19 February 2015 at 17:55, Nicholas Robertson-Muir < >>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The MK series had a lot of boinking. >>>>> There was a tribe of boinking chicks that would steal "life essence" >>>>> from their partners. >>>>> Reptile boinked the most. He was immune to their "powers" Go figure. >>>>> >>>>> It didn't hurt that the girls in the story were good looking either. >>>>> That hollywood make-up magic. >>>>> Oh, and plastic surgery, natch. >>>>> On 19 Feb 2015 17:12, "Wynand-Ben" <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> lol >>>>>> >>>>>> That and Naruto/Bleach/One Piece seem to be the autopilot troll >>>>>> response whenever people ask "What anime is that" in AMVs or other media >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:55:42 +0200 >>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >>>>>> Fucksakes I just googled that here at work. >>>>>> smh :) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 19 February 2015 at 16:53, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> He could have said "Boku no Pico"... >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:49:39 +0200 >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >>>>>> I hate you. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 19 February 2015 at 16:47, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it’s Naruto. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Scheidel >>>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 4:42 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dawie's origimal name is David. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone remember that cartoon with the green mice in the >>>>>> theater ? >>>>>> May have been french. >>>>>> Can't think of the name and google aint helping. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 19 February 2015 at 16:22, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Me neither. >>>>>> Didn’t understand enough Afrikaans. Same with Brakenjan. Watched some >>>>>> stuff that was simulcast. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *richard moorcroft >>>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 4:21 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> >>>>>> Really?? I never watched the show >>>>>> On Feb 19, 2015 4:06 PM, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dawie doesnt die. He turns into an oaktree. >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:34:03 +0200 >>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >>>>>> Firstly I would like to thank you guys for using the correct move >>>>>> name for raisins. >>>>>> Secondly I have to say that I SS hopkick delayed raisins like a >>>>>> fucking champion. >>>>>> >>>>>> :) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Ek is Daaaaawie, die KABBBBOUUUTTTER!!" Damn, the feels *lmao* >>>>>> On 19 Feb 2015 15:24, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh shit! I didn't realise Dawie die Kabouter dies in the end. >>>>>> >>>>>> Come on, sing along everyone! >>>>>> >>>>>> DAWIE DIE KABOUTER AFRIKAANS INTRO LIED >>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iymgR6fbzDI> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul has great punishment. >>>>>> >>>>>> Im sure something will hit. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You guys created your own Lei myth about his stances not being >>>>>> punishable lol. >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:01:25 +0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Are these all the cases where you’re badly negative, but totally >>>>>> unpunishable? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, but I still don’t care that you don’t get continuous rush down. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On >>>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 2:54 PM >>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> >>>>>> Its great but that also kinda points out the problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> To get into Tiger(4th razor hit) you need razor CH or do delay >>>>>> shenanigans. Would have been nice to be on enough plus to force the >>>>>> opponent to block the incoming mixup instead getting to bait retaliation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tiger is not really a problem tho since its the most usefull stance >>>>>> imo. It actually has answers for whatever the opponent does. >>>>>> Snake can mostly handle itself as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Panther and Dragon needs some help on their transitions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is all talking about transitions on HIT. >>>>>> >>>>>> On blocked razor into Tiger lei is at -14. >>>>>> Other stance transitions from razor on block are all worse than -10 >>>>>> on block as well. >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:38:57 +0200 >>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> I saw a few Lei player then to go into Tiger after razor rush on >>>>>> hit and then hold back so you dash out of their range of their dick punch >>>>>> or their retaliation. That's where TGR 4 launches them. It's a weird set >>>>>> up >>>>>> but it works for those who are bad under pressure of razor rush and just >>>>>> think dick punch solves everything. >>>>>> Not sure if it'll work the same on block though. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On block I dont mind. >>>>>> >>>>>> They just need to buff the frames on hit. >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:13:03 +0200 >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> I know they nerfed his razor rush a few times. >>>>>> It use to razor rush on block into stance and guess. >>>>>> Now razor rush on block into stance...dick punch/generic d+4 stops >>>>>> all. Lei's turn to guess...Unless his stances have hopkick...razor rush >>>>>> is >>>>>> not as strong as it used to be in old times. Also the razor rush sidestep >>>>>> into stances used to cover much more distance. I remember i could almost >>>>>> go >>>>>> into opponent's back if they do something linear or dick punch. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It wasn’t just his combo damage was it? >>>>>> I might be wrong, but didn’t they buff his damage for other moves? >>>>>> I’m thinking very specifically of raisin rush on CH. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think you just need to get off your lazy ass and learn how to do >>>>>> Lei’s punishment game properly. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On >>>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 2:04 PM >>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem is once he loses his damage(Im fairly sure hes not >>>>>> going to keep it) he going to be below average again unless his actual >>>>>> moves are improved. >>>>>> >>>>>> Trackings/Frames or otherwise >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:52:15 +0000 >>>>>> Paul’s d+1 doesn’t track all that well. Generally you are forced to >>>>>> use it because it’s his only fast-ish mid. He doesn’t have a generic >>>>>> df+1. >>>>>> You have df+2 at 15f, but that’s punishable. >>>>>> Meh, as Steve said, we’ve had these discussions before and they go >>>>>> round and round. Paul doesn’t need better tracking. He’s got his good >>>>>> punishment, nice wall game and good mid range moves. What he lacks is >>>>>> tracking or any sort of plus on block/ rush down game. If they give those >>>>>> to him, well then he jumps a bit in the tier list. Would I like those >>>>>> added? Sure. Is it a major issue not having them? Not really. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lei doesn’t need trackers. He has enough other tools. Are they good >>>>>> enough to make him top tier? Hell no. Is he still playable? Sure. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On >>>>>> Behalf Of *Di Lhong >>>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 1:44 PM >>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul's d+1 tracks really well. He also have a generic db+4. >>>>>> Sure it's not as damaging as some homing move. But they're pokes >>>>>> that is fast and stops your opponent from walking around freely. And on >>>>>> hit, it puts you back to "your" game. Instead of defending and waiting to >>>>>> land a b+2 homing. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> what does paul get off his Tracker on hit/CH? >>>>>> >>>>>> I think Lei's is 1f slower(24f) with absolutely zero reward because >>>>>> he is forced to taunt. >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:35:24 +0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure, while you’re at it, why not give Paul a tracker that’s under >>>>>> 25f as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On >>>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 1:33 PM >>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> >>>>>> Or make 1+2 track. >>>>>> >>>>>> Its high so can be ducked and stuff >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:27:31 +0200 >>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Without ff+3...Lei has df+3 which is bad...especially on hit XD >>>>>> If they just make ff+3 a homing move, i wouldn't mind that. It's >>>>>> the fact it's not and we keep thinking we can step it... >>>>>> If they make Lei like Brad Wong. I'm quitting. That drunken BS is >>>>>> too fluid with no space for interruption between stance transition. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Stephen Scheidel < >>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dude ff+3 has stupid tracking. >>>>>> Lei will track fine without it doing both sides track. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 19 February 2015 at 13:21, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Lei's options getting stepped is already his a major weakness he >>>>>> has. >>>>>> >>>>>> He cant punish stepping properly and his trackers are ass. >>>>>> >>>>>> Its not even like ff+3 tracks properly either(And im fairly sure its >>>>>> only to one side). Cant decide to ff+3 because I think the opponent is >>>>>> going to step. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lei is no better gameplay wise than he was in T6. His damage boost >>>>>> is the only reason hes considered High in TTT2. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nerfing his tracking is the very last thing Lei needs. >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:14:29 +0200 >>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >>>>>> I would just make ff+3 a bit more linear ~ able to walk it to one >>>>>> side or something. >>>>>> Most of the tier list I've seen for TTT2 put him quite high. >>>>>> >>>>>> ...............There is nothing new we could discuss about Lei, we >>>>>> always bitch about him. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 19 February 2015 at 11:45, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Spam raisin rush. You don’t need anything else. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder what they’ve done about Lei’s combo damage. Just that isn’t >>>>>> enough to help a character. Hwo always has high combo damage, but lacks >>>>>> the >>>>>> other tools to make him top tier. Lei, however, also has good punishment >>>>>> and average pokes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Got to say that I don’t think Lei is a particularly low character. >>>>>> I’d put him happily mid – probably below Paul though. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On >>>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 11:38 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> lol >>>>>> >>>>>> They could... but then hes going to need major buffs in order to >>>>>> compete. >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:34:12 +0200 >>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Remove ff+3. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Wynand-Ben < >>>>>> paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> His "poking" and non gimmicky stance game is not great. If you >>>>>> remove the shenanigans hes a below average character. >>>>>> >>>>>> So if they remove half his moves. Ie less gimmicks he needs stronger >>>>>> tools to play a more normal game. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> He got a big damage buff in TTT2 but they didnt fix any of the core >>>>>> problems with his moves sadly. >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:25:30 +0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Lei needs buffs? LOL! >>>>>> Good one Paas. I need that. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On >>>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 11:12 AM >>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> >>>>>> They could pretty much dump half of Lei's movelist but then they >>>>>> would have to buff the rest of his stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently he has boatload of very situational moves combined with >>>>>> some that are just straight up bad. >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:02:06 +0200 >>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Lei and Capo lolz They need to remove some of their stuff and >>>>>> update them properly. >>>>>> Zafina might have a large move list. 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