His Lee Sliding command also df~d~df+3 but have a MUCH longer reach than Lee Sliding. It has the same range if not slighting more than Raven's BT ff+3+4 During his dash stance df df he can do Wang's b+1,4 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I will use the slide :) > > On 19 February 2015 at 19:11, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> So much Shaheen footage...i'm already starting to know how to play him >> lolz >> >> Need more Katarina, Chloe footage. >> >> Claudio's footage is usually people trying to figure his glowing hand aka >> "starburst" mech. >> >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >> > wrote: >> >>> Di here is some more T7. >>> Bappara is a OG Japanese Lee expert that I steal from. >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTUFkGtFLoU >>> >>> On 19 February 2015 at 17:55, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> The MK series had a lot of boinking. >>>> There was a tribe of boinking chicks that would steal "life essence" >>>> from their partners. >>>> Reptile boinked the most. He was immune to their "powers" Go figure. >>>> >>>> It didn't hurt that the girls in the story were good looking either. >>>> That hollywood make-up magic. >>>> Oh, and plastic surgery, natch. >>>> On 19 Feb 2015 17:12, "Wynand-Ben" <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> lol >>>>> >>>>> That and Naruto/Bleach/One Piece seem to be the autopilot troll >>>>> response whenever people ask "What anime is that" in AMVs or other media >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:55:42 +0200 >>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> Fucksakes I just googled that here at work. >>>>> smh :) >>>>> >>>>> On 19 February 2015 at 16:53, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> He could have said "Boku no Pico"... >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:49:39 +0200 >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> I hate you. >>>>> >>>>> On 19 February 2015 at 16:47, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think it’s Naruto. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Scheidel >>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 4:42 PM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dawie's origimal name is David. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone remember that cartoon with the green mice in the theater >>>>> ? >>>>> May have been french. >>>>> Can't think of the name and google aint helping. >>>>> >>>>> On 19 February 2015 at 16:22, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Me neither. >>>>> Didn’t understand enough Afrikaans. Same with Brakenjan. Watched some >>>>> stuff that was simulcast. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *richard moorcroft >>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 4:21 PM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> >>>>> Really?? I never watched the show >>>>> On Feb 19, 2015 4:06 PM, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dawie doesnt die. He turns into an oaktree. >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:34:03 +0200 >>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> Firstly I would like to thank you guys for using the correct move name >>>>> for raisins. >>>>> Secondly I have to say that I SS hopkick delayed raisins like a >>>>> fucking champion. >>>>> >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Ek is Daaaaawie, die KABBBBOUUUTTTER!!" Damn, the feels *lmao* >>>>> On 19 Feb 2015 15:24, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Oh shit! I didn't realise Dawie die Kabouter dies in the end. >>>>> >>>>> Come on, sing along everyone! >>>>> >>>>> DAWIE DIE KABOUTER AFRIKAANS INTRO LIED >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iymgR6fbzDI> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Paul has great punishment. >>>>> >>>>> Im sure something will hit. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You guys created your own Lei myth about his stances not being >>>>> punishable lol. >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:01:25 +0000 >>>>> >>>>> Are these all the cases where you’re badly negative, but totally >>>>> unpunishable? >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, but I still don’t care that you don’t get continuous rush down. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 2:54 PM >>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> >>>>> Its great but that also kinda points out the problem. >>>>> >>>>> To get into Tiger(4th razor hit) you need razor CH or do delay >>>>> shenanigans. Would have been nice to be on enough plus to force the >>>>> opponent to block the incoming mixup instead getting to bait retaliation. >>>>> >>>>> Tiger is not really a problem tho since its the most usefull stance >>>>> imo. It actually has answers for whatever the opponent does. >>>>> Snake can mostly handle itself as well. >>>>> >>>>> Panther and Dragon needs some help on their transitions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is all talking about transitions on HIT. >>>>> >>>>> On blocked razor into Tiger lei is at -14. >>>>> Other stance transitions from razor on block are all worse than -10 on >>>>> block as well. >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:38:57 +0200 >>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> I saw a few Lei player then to go into Tiger after razor rush on hit >>>>> and then hold back so you dash out of their range of their dick punch or >>>>> their retaliation. That's where TGR 4 launches them. It's a weird set up >>>>> but it works for those who are bad under pressure of razor rush and just >>>>> think dick punch solves everything. >>>>> Not sure if it'll work the same on block though. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On block I dont mind. >>>>> >>>>> They just need to buff the frames on hit. >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:13:03 +0200 >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> I know they nerfed his razor rush a few times. >>>>> It use to razor rush on block into stance and guess. >>>>> Now razor rush on block into stance...dick punch/generic d+4 stops >>>>> all. Lei's turn to guess...Unless his stances have hopkick...razor rush is >>>>> not as strong as it used to be in old times. Also the razor rush sidestep >>>>> into stances used to cover much more distance. I remember i could almost >>>>> go >>>>> into opponent's back if they do something linear or dick punch. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It wasn’t just his combo damage was it? >>>>> I might be wrong, but didn’t they buff his damage for other moves? I’m >>>>> thinking very specifically of raisin rush on CH. >>>>> >>>>> I think you just need to get off your lazy ass and learn how to do >>>>> Lei’s punishment game properly. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 2:04 PM >>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> >>>>> The problem is once he loses his damage(Im fairly sure hes not going >>>>> to keep it) he going to be below average again unless his actual moves are >>>>> improved. >>>>> >>>>> Trackings/Frames or otherwise >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:52:15 +0000 >>>>> Paul’s d+1 doesn’t track all that well. Generally you are forced to >>>>> use it because it’s his only fast-ish mid. He doesn’t have a generic df+1. >>>>> You have df+2 at 15f, but that’s punishable. >>>>> Meh, as Steve said, we’ve had these discussions before and they go >>>>> round and round. Paul doesn’t need better tracking. He’s got his good >>>>> punishment, nice wall game and good mid range moves. What he lacks is >>>>> tracking or any sort of plus on block/ rush down game. If they give those >>>>> to him, well then he jumps a bit in the tier list. Would I like those >>>>> added? Sure. Is it a major issue not having them? Not really. >>>>> >>>>> Lei doesn’t need trackers. He has enough other tools. Are they good >>>>> enough to make him top tier? Hell no. Is he still playable? Sure. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Di Lhong >>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 1:44 PM >>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> >>>>> Paul's d+1 tracks really well. He also have a generic db+4. >>>>> Sure it's not as damaging as some homing move. But they're pokes >>>>> that is fast and stops your opponent from walking around freely. And on >>>>> hit, it puts you back to "your" game. Instead of defending and waiting to >>>>> land a b+2 homing. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> what does paul get off his Tracker on hit/CH? >>>>> >>>>> I think Lei's is 1f slower(24f) with absolutely zero reward because he >>>>> is forced to taunt. >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:35:24 +0000 >>>>> >>>>> Sure, while you’re at it, why not give Paul a tracker that’s under >>>>> 25f as well. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 1:33 PM >>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> >>>>> Or make 1+2 track. >>>>> >>>>> Its high so can be ducked and stuff >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:27:31 +0200 >>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Without ff+3...Lei has df+3 which is bad...especially on hit XD >>>>> If they just make ff+3 a homing move, i wouldn't mind that. It's the >>>>> fact it's not and we keep thinking we can step it... >>>>> If they make Lei like Brad Wong. I'm quitting. That drunken BS is >>>>> too fluid with no space for interruption between stance transition. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Stephen Scheidel < >>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dude ff+3 has stupid tracking. >>>>> Lei will track fine without it doing both sides track. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 19 February 2015 at 13:21, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Lei's options getting stepped is already his a major weakness he has. >>>>> >>>>> He cant punish stepping properly and his trackers are ass. >>>>> >>>>> Its not even like ff+3 tracks properly either(And im fairly sure its >>>>> only to one side). Cant decide to ff+3 because I think the opponent is >>>>> going to step. >>>>> >>>>> Lei is no better gameplay wise than he was in T6. His damage boost is >>>>> the only reason hes considered High in TTT2. >>>>> >>>>> Nerfing his tracking is the very last thing Lei needs. >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:14:29 +0200 >>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> I would just make ff+3 a bit more linear ~ able to walk it to one >>>>> side or something. >>>>> Most of the tier list I've seen for TTT2 put him quite high. >>>>> >>>>> ...............There is nothing new we could discuss about Lei, we >>>>> always bitch about him. >>>>> >>>>> On 19 February 2015 at 11:45, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Spam raisin rush. You don’t need anything else. >>>>> >>>>> I wonder what they’ve done about Lei’s combo damage. Just that isn’t >>>>> enough to help a character. Hwo always has high combo damage, but lacks >>>>> the >>>>> other tools to make him top tier. Lei, however, also has good punishment >>>>> and average pokes. >>>>> >>>>> Got to say that I don’t think Lei is a particularly low character. I’d >>>>> put him happily mid – probably below Paul though. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 11:38 AM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> lol >>>>> >>>>> They could... but then hes going to need major buffs in order to >>>>> compete. >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:34:12 +0200 >>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Remove ff+3. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> His "poking" and non gimmicky stance game is not great. If you >>>>> remove the shenanigans hes a below average character. >>>>> >>>>> So if they remove half his moves. Ie less gimmicks he needs stronger >>>>> tools to play a more normal game. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> He got a big damage buff in TTT2 but they didnt fix any of the core >>>>> problems with his moves sadly. >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:25:30 +0000 >>>>> >>>>> Lei needs buffs? LOL! >>>>> Good one Paas. I need that. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 11:12 AM >>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> >>>>> They could pretty much dump half of Lei's movelist but then they >>>>> would have to buff the rest of his stuff. >>>>> >>>>> Currently he has boatload of very situational moves combined with some >>>>> that are just straight up bad. >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:02:06 +0200 >>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail >>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Lei and Capo lolz They need to remove some of their stuff and >>>>> update them properly. >>>>> Zafina might have a large move list. 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