Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:11:46 +0200

So much Shaheen footage...i'm already starting to know how to play him lolz

Need more Katarina, Chloe footage.

Claudio's footage is usually people trying to figure his glowing hand aka
"starburst" mech.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Di here is some more T7.
> Bappara is a OG Japanese Lee expert that I steal from.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTUFkGtFLoU
>
> On 19 February 2015 at 17:55, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> The MK series had a lot of boinking.
>> There was a tribe of boinking chicks that would steal "life essence" from
>> their partners.
>> Reptile boinked the most.  He was immune to their "powers"  Go figure.
>>
>> It didn't hurt that the girls in the story were good looking either.
>> That hollywood make-up magic.
>> Oh, and plastic surgery, natch.
>> On 19 Feb 2015 17:12, "Wynand-Ben" <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> lol
>>>
>>> That and Naruto/Bleach/One Piece seem to be the autopilot troll response
>>> whenever people ask "What anime is that" in AMVs or other media etc.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:55:42 +0200
>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Fucksakes I just googled that here at work.
>>> smh :)
>>>
>>> On 19 February 2015 at 16:53, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> He could have said "Boku no Pico"...
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:49:39 +0200
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> I hate you.
>>>
>>> On 19 February 2015 at 16:47, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I think it’s Naruto.
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Scheidel
>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 4:42 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>
>>>  Dawie's origimal name is David.
>>>
>>>  Does anyone remember that cartoon with the green mice in the theater ?
>>>  May have been french.
>>>  Can't think of the name and google aint helping.
>>>
>>>  On 19 February 2015 at 16:22, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Me neither.
>>> Didn’t understand enough Afrikaans. Same with Brakenjan. Watched some
>>> stuff that was simulcast.
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *richard moorcroft
>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 4:21 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>> Really?? I never watched the show
>>>  On Feb 19, 2015 4:06 PM, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Dawie doesnt die. He turns into an oaktree.
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:34:03 +0200
>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Firstly I would like to thank you guys for using the correct move name
>>> for raisins.
>>>  Secondly I have to say that I SS hopkick delayed raisins like a fucking
>>> champion.
>>>
>>>  :)
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Ek is Daaaaawie, die KABBBBOUUUTTTER!!" Damn, the feels *lmao*
>>>  On 19 Feb 2015 15:24, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Oh shit!  I didn't realise Dawie die Kabouter dies in the end.
>>>
>>>  Come on, sing along everyone!
>>>
>>>  DAWIE DIE KABOUTER AFRIKAANS INTRO LIED
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iymgR6fbzDI>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Paul has great punishment.
>>>
>>> Im sure something will hit.
>>>
>>>
>>> You guys created your own Lei myth about his stances not being
>>> punishable lol.
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:01:25 +0000
>>>
>>>  Are these all the cases where you’re badly negative, but totally
>>> unpunishable?
>>>
>>> Sorry, but I still don’t care that you don’t get continuous rush down.
>>>
>>>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 2:54 PM
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>  Its great but that also kinda points out the problem.
>>>
>>> To get into Tiger(4th razor hit) you need razor CH or do delay
>>> shenanigans.  Would have been nice to be on enough plus to force the
>>> opponent to block the incoming mixup instead getting to bait retaliation.
>>>
>>> Tiger is not really a problem tho since its the most usefull stance
>>> imo.  It actually has answers for whatever the opponent does.
>>> Snake can mostly handle itself as well.
>>>
>>> Panther and Dragon needs some help on their transitions.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is all talking about transitions on HIT.
>>>
>>> On blocked razor into Tiger lei is at -14.
>>> Other stance transitions from razor on block are all worse than -10 on
>>> block as well.
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:38:57 +0200
>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>  I saw a few Lei player then to go into Tiger after razor rush on hit
>>> and then hold back so you dash out of their range of their dick punch or
>>> their retaliation. That's where TGR 4 launches them. It's a weird set up
>>> but it works for those who are bad under pressure of razor rush and just
>>> think dick punch solves everything.
>>>  Not sure if it'll work the same on block though.
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  On block I dont mind.
>>>
>>> They just need to buff the frames on hit.
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:13:03 +0200
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>   I know they nerfed his razor rush a few times.
>>>  It use to razor rush on block into stance and guess.
>>>  Now razor rush on block into stance...dick punch/generic d+4 stops
>>> all. Lei's turn to guess...Unless his stances have hopkick...razor rush is
>>> not as strong as it used to be in old times. Also the razor rush sidestep
>>> into stances used to cover much more distance. I remember i could almost go
>>> into opponent's back if they do something linear or dick punch.
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  It wasn’t just his combo damage was it?
>>> I might be wrong, but didn’t they buff his damage for other moves? I’m
>>> thinking very specifically of raisin rush on CH.
>>>
>>> I think you just need to get off your lazy ass and learn how to do Lei’s
>>> punishment game properly.
>>>
>>>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 2:04 PM
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>  The problem is once he loses his damage(Im fairly sure hes not going
>>> to keep it) he going to be below average again unless his actual moves are
>>> improved.
>>>
>>> Trackings/Frames or otherwise
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:52:15 +0000
>>>  Paul’s d+1 doesn’t track all that well. Generally you are forced to
>>> use it because it’s his only fast-ish mid. He doesn’t have a generic df+1.
>>> You have df+2 at 15f, but that’s punishable.
>>> Meh, as Steve said, we’ve had these discussions before and they go round
>>> and round. Paul doesn’t need better tracking. He’s got his good punishment,
>>> nice wall game and good mid range moves. What he lacks is tracking or any
>>> sort of plus on block/ rush down game. If they give those to him, well then
>>> he jumps a bit in the tier list. Would I like those added? Sure. Is it a
>>> major issue not having them? Not really.
>>>
>>> Lei doesn’t need trackers. He has enough other tools. Are they good
>>> enough to make him top tier? Hell no. Is he still playable? Sure.
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 1:44 PM
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>  Paul's d+1 tracks really well. He also have a generic db+4.
>>>  Sure it's not as damaging as some homing move. But they're pokes that
>>> is fast and stops your opponent from walking around freely. And on hit, it
>>> puts you back to "your" game. Instead of defending and waiting to land a
>>> b+2 homing.
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  what does paul get off his Tracker on hit/CH?
>>>
>>> I think Lei's is 1f slower(24f) with absolutely zero reward because he
>>> is forced to taunt.
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:35:24 +0000
>>>
>>>  Sure, while you’re at it, why not give Paul a tracker that’s under 25f
>>> as well.
>>>
>>>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 1:33 PM
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>  Or make 1+2 track.
>>>
>>> Its high so can be ducked and stuff
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:27:31 +0200
>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>   Without ff+3...Lei has df+3 which is bad...especially on hit XD
>>>  If they just make ff+3 a homing move, i wouldn't mind that. It's the
>>> fact it's not and we keep thinking we can step it...
>>>  If they make Lei like Brad Wong. I'm quitting. That drunken BS is too
>>> fluid with no space for interruption between stance transition.
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Dude ff+3 has stupid tracking.
>>>  Lei will track fine without it doing both sides track.
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 19 February 2015 at 13:21, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Lei's options getting stepped is already his a major weakness he has.
>>>
>>> He cant punish stepping properly and his trackers are ass.
>>>
>>> Its not even like ff+3 tracks properly either(And im fairly sure its
>>> only to one side).  Cant decide to ff+3 because I think the opponent is
>>> going to step.
>>>
>>> Lei is no better gameplay wise than he was in T6.  His damage boost is
>>> the only reason hes considered High in TTT2.
>>>
>>> Nerfing his tracking is the very last thing Lei needs.
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:14:29 +0200
>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>  I would just make ff+3 a bit more linear ~ able to walk it to one side
>>> or something.
>>>  Most of the tier list I've seen for TTT2 put him quite high.
>>>
>>>  ...............There is nothing new we could discuss about Lei, we
>>> always bitch about him.
>>>
>>>  On 19 February 2015 at 11:45, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Spam raisin rush. You don’t need anything else.
>>>
>>> I wonder what they’ve done about Lei’s combo damage. Just that isn’t
>>> enough to help a character. Hwo always has high combo damage, but lacks the
>>> other tools to make him top tier. Lei, however, also has good punishment
>>> and average pokes.
>>>
>>> Got to say that I don’t think Lei is a particularly low character. I’d
>>> put him happily mid – probably below Paul though.
>>>
>>>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 11:38 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>
>>>  lol
>>>
>>> They could...  but then hes going to need major buffs in order to
>>> compete.
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:34:12 +0200
>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>  Remove ff+3.
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  His "poking" and non gimmicky stance game is not great.  If you remove
>>> the shenanigans hes a below average character.
>>>
>>> So if they remove half his moves.  Ie less gimmicks he needs stronger
>>> tools to play a more normal game.
>>>
>>>
>>> He got a big damage buff in TTT2 but they didnt fix any of the core
>>> problems with his moves sadly.
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:25:30 +0000
>>>
>>>  Lei needs buffs? LOL!
>>> Good one Paas. I need that.
>>>
>>>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>> *Sent:* 19 February 2015 11:12 AM
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>  They could pretty much dump half of Lei's movelist but then they would
>>> have to buff the rest of his stuff.
>>>
>>> Currently he has boatload of very situational moves combined with some
>>> that are just straight up bad.
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:02:06 +0200
>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>   Lei and Capo lolz They need to remove some of their stuff and update
>>> them properly.
>>>  Zafina might have a large move list. But all her moves are decent and
>>> useful.
>>>  I wouldn't mind if they do a total revamp like they did for SC5. Maybe
>>> the series needs it. But keep some of the original cast and strong point of
>>> Tekken.
>>>  Lucky Chloe moves are basically Capo Light. The same but doesn't
>>> knockdown lolz. She have a slippery kick that doesn't knock down and looks
>>> punishable as hell. On hit doesn't stagger or give much frames either T_T
>>>
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