Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:02:51 +0200

Yeah you're right about basic logic and stats.  Application of Bayes
theorem follows on from that.

Randomness is a deceptively hard concept to understand.  I've had countless
arguments with people who think they know the difference between Random,
Pseudo Random and Chaotic,

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Together with the Bayesian, I’d add a basic understanding of how arguing
> works – I mean reasoning, not LB stuff.
>
>
>
> Some basic stats wouldn’t go remiss either. Most people don’t understand
> basic probability. I suppose you’d need this before hitting the Bayesian
> stuff anyway.
>
>
>
> My biggest logic/maths bugbear – random. I understand how random works,
> but I ignore the concept far too often. It’s so much nicer to find
> patterns, whether they’re there or not.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 17 February 2015 4:45 PM
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
>
> I read once that the most important things to understand at a fundamental
> level are exponential growth and Bayesian reasoning.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  There are things that they really should teach people in school that
> they don’t.
>
> Everyone should learn basic contract law. This would stop a whole lot of
> people from getting screwed over because they signed something that they
> didn’t understand. This is especially important considering how our
> national credit act works.
>
> The second thing they should teach people is how to budget, including how
> interest works and the time value of money. Show people what they’re
> actually paying. Help them to understand how saving will work and how to
> manage on a limited budget. You can do this at a young age. It’s the
> practical use of maths that they need to get into people’s heads.
>
>
>
> 90% of the maths that I learned has done nothing for me (personal life,
> not work life). Once you actually do some vaguely advanced maths – I mean
> matric level stuff like Riemenn sums – you can see how it can be used,
> especially if you’re doing physics at the same time. For the rest, you
> don’t really need it. When last did anyone here need to calculate the
> volume of a sphere?
>
>
>
> I do understand that you need a proper maths base before you head to the
> advanced stuff, and I’m sure people who know a lot more about teaching than
> I do have thought about this, but I do wonder why school maths isn’t more
> practical.
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ryan Williams
> *Sent:* 17 February 2015 3:31 PM
>
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
>
> I think I'd be more fond of maths if I could have applied it practically
> at a young age.
>
>
>
> Despite not being the greatest fan of it, if I can apply something
> logically and have it make sense that way, it sticks.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Meh, maths is broad enough that you can find some of it that works for
> you. The maths that we did for comp sci was discrete structures. It doesn’t
> match anything that we did in school – more logic than calculus or algebra.
> Google ‘strong induction’ for an idea of what it is.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ryan Williams
> *Sent:* 17 February 2015 3:24 PM
>
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
>
> Well I'm enjoying it so far. I suppose that's the important thing.
> Troubleshooting = problem solving = I have a knack.
>
>
>
> I hate maths though.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  You need a knack for problem solving. It can be a lot of fun. From time
> to time I will review models and try to track down issues – could be lousy
> macros, poor maths or just bad model governance. That’s more my style than
> straight programming.
>
> Good luck with it all. I suppose just keep at it.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ryan Williams
> *Sent:* 17 February 2015 3:16 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
>
> I've always felt that I don't have a mind for programming, so I'm trying
> to see if I'm wrong.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Did a couple of years of comp sci at varsity. Quit when I realised it was
> nothing like gaming.
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Ryan Williams<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎17 14:54
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
> In my experience, the first few lessons were simple enough to grasp. Shit
> gets real after that. Currently learning functions.
>
> On 17 Feb 2015 14:51, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> f I stopped somewhere at the beginning , writing my name or something.
>
> kuk is hard.
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:49:54 +0200
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> Yar. Learning Javascript.
>
> On 17 Feb 2015 14:49, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> code academy?
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:48:18 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> End of the month.
>
> On 17 Feb 2015 14:47, "Ashraf Barendse" <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> So no Kamimodo this week?
> :(
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> I'm learning how to code.
>
> On 17 Feb 2015 14:45, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 1...2....3....4....
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:43:44 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Tumbooroo weedo
>
> On 17 February 2015 at 13:07, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> :(
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:01:32 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
> @paas
> I see you cannot use the PSN+ Guilty Gear colours on the ps3 version.
> Bummer.
>
> I-no's looks the best tho.
>
> On 17 Feb 2015 11:14, "Stephen Scheidel" <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Egh i stuck running meters and meters of vinyl through a machine today.
> Pretty boring but at least I'm near a pc most of the time.
>
> On 17 February 2015 at 11:10, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> [cid:ii_i692juxm0_14b96cde4c77c2f7]
> ​
>
> On 17 February 2015 at 11:00, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Are you really happy with a win....
>
> YES
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 08:58:03 +0000
>
>
> Are you really happy with a win where it was the lag that gave it to you,
> not your skill?
>
> Yawn. Having trouble staying awake here.
>
> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
> Sent: 17 February 2015 10:50 AM
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>
> winnings winning
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:42:48 +0200
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *lol* You mean like me winning all those matches last night? :P
> On 17 Feb 2015 10:39, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>
> [cid:image001.png@01D04AA0.930D4E90]
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:33:07 +0200
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> You call winning once with 16f delay bopping? The fark outta here. You'll
> know what real bopping is on Saturday.
> On 17 Feb 2015 10:30, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> wtf!!!!!!!
>
> sap didn't I bop you last nyt?
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:29:35 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *lol*
> On 17 Feb 2015 10:26, "euraima tobias" <euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> euraima@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Is it GB's? I knew something was up, letting him bop you like that in
> melty... :-?
> On 17 Feb 2015 10:21 AM, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> I didn't know you were expecting LB.  Congrats.
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> u violet my expectancy
>
> now im mad
>
> let the bopping commence
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:56:31 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> He's not unsure, he's in denial.
> On 17 Feb 2015 09:55, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > im unsure whats happening.
> LB's epitaph
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:50 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> they probably related to "the answer" somehow.
>
> also I would like closure on the topic of jeeva or kami this week?
>
> im unsure whats happening.
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:31:07 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> You have to assume that they can hack basically anything since they've
> obtained source code to hardware firmware.  These hacks go way back to
> 2001.  Noone knows what they're capable of now.  And you still have to
> consider the capabilities of Russia, China, Europe and Israel.
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Can dey hek my iped?
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Interesting material for people who like reading about hacking and spy
> programs:
>
>
> https://securelist.com/files/2015/02/Equation_group_questions_and_answers.pdf
> tl;dr:  The NSA has an elite hacking group nicknamed "Equation" that,
> among other things, has managed to create spyware that infects PC hard
> drive firmware and can operate undetected.
>
>
>
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