Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:24:33 +0200

They're not as exposed to the media for greed and desire...you have to buy
this for that, get this for that, do this to look better etc.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Travel around the UK and look at all the miserable people there. Also
> really unfriendly. Then go to Ghana. The people have a hell of a lot less
> going on there, but they seem a lot more cheerful and friendly.
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> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 4:15 PM
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> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
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> Nigeria has the happiest population.
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> http://www.theguardian.com/global/2011/jan/04/nigerians-top-optimism-poll
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> By other metrics it's the Scandinavian nations.
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> Singapore was voted the most unhappy.
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> http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/singapore/story/singaporeans-not-just-emotionless-unhappy-20121220
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> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>  Interesting read.
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>
> Although the problem of people working too hard seems like a nice novel
> one, from what I’ve read about Singapore it doesn’t seem like a place where
> I’d like to live. The place seems to run perfectly, but I don’t know if the
> people are all that happy.
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> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 3:28 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
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> The author of that piece leans to western (read: US) conservative values.
> She also happens to believe that women should not have the right to work
> after giving birth.  They should stay home and look after the kids.
> Basically a right-wing crackpot.
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> She does touch on something that was highlighted as a problem in Singapore
> by an ex-intelligence officer with whom we happened to have a conversation.
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> In short:
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> There are basically 3 generations of Singaporeans:
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> 1.  People whose family originated on the island ("ethnic" Singaporeans)
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> 2.  People who emigrated there or who were slaves (mostly Malaysians,
> Indonesians, Indians and Chinese)
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> 3.  People who emigrated in the last few decades (mostly Chinese)
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> All 3 generations fiercely identify as Singaporeans.  Generation 2 + 3
> form the biggest part of the population.  However, generation 1 and 2 have
> a slightly different idea of identity, or what it means to be a
> Singaporean.  For example, they value family, so they tend to get married
> and have kids before the age of 30.  So what happens is that in practice,
> Generation 1 and 2 leave the workplace sooner, and Generation 3 overtakes
> them in terms of business success (but not family success).  This results
> in a ruling elite (in business) that has different values to the rest of
> the country, which Generation 1 and 2 don't agree with.  Generation 1 and 2
> are typically older, more conservative, and have more power in government.
> So they basically enforce rules which level out the playing field between
> people who want to have families when they are younger and people who focus
> more on business.  This leads to a problem where the young Chinese get
> educated in Singapore, but then leave because they feel that they are being
> held back by the Equity Laws.  When they become successful, they return,
> and use their new-found wealth and power to influence politics in a way
> that benefits them, which ultimately means that Generation 1 and 2
> Singaporean values are slowly being replaced by Generation 3 ones.  How to
> handle this problem?  The guy we spoke to was not sure.  In fact, he
> thought it might already be too late.
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>
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> This is the kind of thing that the Japanese author is afraid of.  She
> wants Japan to retain its culture and values (which is ironic considering
> the Western influence on her political ideas), and is afraid that by
> treating immigrants equally they will lose their identity.  Well, I'm sorry
> to have to break this to Ms Sono, but that's exactly how the world works.
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> In any case, what a wonderful predicament Singapore is facing.  Imagine
> living in a country where one of your problems is that the people are
> working too hard, and are too ambitious.  I'll take that over the crap we
> have to deal with any day.
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> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> Yeah, read about this earlier. How fucked up can you get.
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> On 16 Feb 2015 13:04, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Japan please...
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> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/11414141/Japanese-author-provokes-furious-South-African-response-by-suggesting-a-new-apartheid.html
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> On 16 Feb 2015 12:53, "Moshe Shevel" <jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Haha thanks guys :)
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> On 16 Feb 2015 12:47 PM, "Sameegh Jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>  Happy Birthday Jag, hope you have an awesome one :]
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> On 16 Feb 2015, at 12:41 PM, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>  Oh, nice one Ilit. You couldn’t have posted that first thing this
> morning, could you? So we’re now all the schmucks who didn’t realise it was
> his birthday.
>
>
>
> In other news, HDB Jag.
>
>
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> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 12:37 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
>
> HBD Jag!
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