Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:14:30 +0200

Nigeria has the happiest population.

http://www.theguardian.com/global/2011/jan/04/nigerians-top-optimism-poll

By other metrics it's the Scandinavian nations.

Singapore was voted the most unhappy.

http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/singapore/story/singaporeans-not-just-emotionless-unhappy-20121220


On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Interesting read.
>
>
>
> Although the problem of people working too hard seems like a nice novel
> one, from what I’ve read about Singapore it doesn’t seem like a place where
> I’d like to live. The place seems to run perfectly, but I don’t know if the
> people are all that happy.
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 3:28 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
>
> The author of that piece leans to western (read: US) conservative values.
> She also happens to believe that women should not have the right to work
> after giving birth.  They should stay home and look after the kids.
> Basically a right-wing crackpot.
>
>
>
> She does touch on something that was highlighted as a problem in Singapore
> by an ex-intelligence officer with whom we happened to have a conversation.
>
>
>
> In short:
>
>
>
> There are basically 3 generations of Singaporeans:
>
> 1.  People whose family originated on the island ("ethnic" Singaporeans)
>
> 2.  People who emigrated there or who were slaves (mostly Malaysians,
> Indonesians, Indians and Chinese)
>
> 3.  People who emigrated in the last few decades (mostly Chinese)
>
>
>
> All 3 generations fiercely identify as Singaporeans.  Generation 2 + 3
> form the biggest part of the population.  However, generation 1 and 2 have
> a slightly different idea of identity, or what it means to be a
> Singaporean.  For example, they value family, so they tend to get married
> and have kids before the age of 30.  So what happens is that in practice,
> Generation 1 and 2 leave the workplace sooner, and Generation 3 overtakes
> them in terms of business success (but not family success).  This results
> in a ruling elite (in business) that has different values to the rest of
> the country, which Generation 1 and 2 don't agree with.  Generation 1 and 2
> are typically older, more conservative, and have more power in government.
> So they basically enforce rules which level out the playing field between
> people who want to have families when they are younger and people who focus
> more on business.  This leads to a problem where the young Chinese get
> educated in Singapore, but then leave because they feel that they are being
> held back by the Equity Laws.  When they become successful, they return,
> and use their new-found wealth and power to influence politics in a way
> that benefits them, which ultimately means that Generation 1 and 2
> Singaporean values are slowly being replaced by Generation 3 ones.  How to
> handle this problem?  The guy we spoke to was not sure.  In fact, he
> thought it might already be too late.
>
>
>
> This is the kind of thing that the Japanese author is afraid of.  She
> wants Japan to retain its culture and values (which is ironic considering
> the Western influence on her political ideas), and is afraid that by
> treating immigrants equally they will lose their identity.  Well, I'm sorry
> to have to break this to Ms Sono, but that's exactly how the world works.
>
>
>
> In any case, what a wonderful predicament Singapore is facing.  Imagine
> living in a country where one of your problems is that the people are
> working too hard, and are too ambitious.  I'll take that over the crap we
> have to deal with any day.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, read about this earlier. How fucked up can you get.
>
> On 16 Feb 2015 13:04, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Japan please...
>
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/11414141/Japanese-author-provokes-furious-South-African-response-by-suggesting-a-new-apartheid.html
>
> On 16 Feb 2015 12:53, "Moshe Shevel" <jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Haha thanks guys :)
>
> On 16 Feb 2015 12:47 PM, "Sameegh Jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Happy Birthday Jag, hope you have an awesome one :]
>
>
> On 16 Feb 2015, at 12:41 PM, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Oh, nice one Ilit. You couldn’t have posted that first thing this
> morning, could you? So we’re now all the schmucks who didn’t realise it was
> his birthday.
>
>
>
> In other news, HDB Jag.
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 12:37 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
>
> HBD Jag!
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