Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:52:40 +0200

Alfred, is that you?

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Some people just want to watch the world burn.
> On 16 Feb 2015 15:49, "Stephen Scheidel" <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Because were are polluting the planet to hell.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 February 2015 at 15:41, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>  Nah, you’re following the wrong path there. Countries with stable
>>> economies have stable/declining populations. This is most evident with the
>>> old European countries. I think France has the issue, but I’m not sure.
>>> Germany definitely does. Their lack of population growth is a problem for
>>> the country. They are still blowing government money on infrastructure for
>>> an expected population that will never arrive. That’s why they’re so happy
>>> to take the Turkish migrant labour. They need it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A stable population is massively hard to get right. Mainly you will grow
>>> or decline. The latter is a huge issue. It will cause contractions in the
>>> economy. It also means that the old people in the country are screwed.
>>> Medical aids, pensions, all the financial products like that are built on
>>> the idea of the young healthy people subsidising the old.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyways, population dynamics isn’t a simple thing. Also, I dunno why I’m
>>> arguing this. It’s not like you’ve given a reason why an increasing
>>> population is a problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Scheidel
>>> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 3:20 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Countries with stable populations usually have stable economies or
>>> whatever it is that allows them to be be happy.
>>>
>>> I know the tax in most of these countries is very very high but it's
>>> fine because everyone receiving is also paying.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 February 2015 at 15:15, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I tend to agree - I think the bigger issue has got to do with resource
>>> distribution. People tend to want more than what they really need.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Huh?
>>>
>>> Too many for what? There is enough space for people to live, more than
>>> enough food for the whole planet.
>>>
>>> Sure there are lots of issues in the world but overpopulation isn’t
>>> actually one of them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Scheidel
>>> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 3:00 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Almost every problem we have as people here on on earth is that there
>>> are just too many of us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:57, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just wrote 4 paragraphs of my thoughts on racism and then deleted it.
>>>
>>> Fuck politics.
>>>
>>> On 16 Feb 2015 14:49, "Ashraf Barendse" <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Damn Japs, why they gotta be racist. Slanty-eyed rice eaters.
>>>
>>> :P
>>>
>>> HBD Jag.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Yeah. It's not they discriminate and treat you differently. If you're
>>> whatever race and you go to japan. They treat you nicely. It's just the
>>> idea of sharing their environment with people they don't know or foreigners.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also a lot of issue started when Japan allowed thailand to travel to
>>> japan by getting a tourist visa on arrival...A LOT of illegal immigrants
>>> went in to Japan. I think at least 6,000 in the first 3 months. And the
>>> thai tourist are very loud and dirty...throwing shit everywhere, not lining
>>> up, etc. Fuelling the japanese xenophobia even more.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Well there is a difference between pride and hating others.
>>>
>>> I get what Di is saying though ~ basically it's not so much that they
>>> hate other people (they obviously do to some extent) but more that they
>>> just want to be around their own kind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:36, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Pride?
>>>
>>> It’s not pride behind racism. It’s hate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 2:31 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, asians are pretty racist and xenophobic...so i'm not too surprise
>>> they wrote something like that. They're pretty racist and xenophobic among
>>> themselves too. Chinese vs Japanese. Thai vs everyone else. Etc. Too much
>>> pride in their own race and country.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I think it was on some comedy show I was watching where the guy covers
>>> some similar stuff.
>>>
>>> Some old sports team owner was caught saying something racist and there
>>> was a big stink.
>>>
>>> What the fuck do they expect ? the parents of Americans who are 80+ now
>>> where the generation that finished off the Native american holocaust ffs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It just sucks when these old geezers still have some power in the world
>>> and you can't just wheel them down the hallway like crazy old grandma.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:21, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Forced segregation is a shit idea and never works.
>>>
>>> I hope nobody is too surprised by this Japanese womans' ideas.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind she was 8 years old when the Americans dropped the bombs on
>>> them.
>>>
>>> She is 83 now.
>>>
>>> To expect anything but racism and xenophobia out of her is a bit much.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's all super wrong but we just shouldn't be surprised.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:08, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  HBD Jagson.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 February 2015 at 13:46, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, read about this earlier. How fucked up can you get.
>>>
>>> On 16 Feb 2015 13:04, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Japan please...
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/11414141/Japanese-author-provokes-furious-South-African-response-by-suggesting-a-new-apartheid.html
>>>
>>> On 16 Feb 2015 12:53, "Moshe Shevel" <jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Haha thanks guys :)
>>>
>>> On 16 Feb 2015 12:47 PM, "Sameegh Jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Happy Birthday Jag, hope you have an awesome one :]
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 Feb 2015, at 12:41 PM, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Oh, nice one Ilit. You couldn’t have posted that first thing this
>>> morning, could you? So we’re now all the schmucks who didn’t realise it was
>>> his birthday.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In other news, HDB Jag.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>> *Sent:* 16 February 2015 12:37 PM
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HBD Jag!
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