RE: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: "Donaldson, Alasdair" <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:41:50 +0000

Nah, you’re following the wrong path there. Countries with stable economies 
have stable/declining populations. This is most evident with the old European 
countries. I think France has the issue, but I’m not sure. Germany definitely 
does. Their lack of population growth is a problem for the country. They are 
still blowing government money on infrastructure for an expected population 
that will never arrive. That’s why they’re so happy to take the Turkish migrant 
labour. They need it.

A stable population is massively hard to get right. Mainly you will grow or 
decline. The latter is a huge issue. It will cause contractions in the economy. 
It also means that the old people in the country are screwed. Medical aids, 
pensions, all the financial products like that are built on the idea of the 
young healthy people subsidising the old.

Anyways, population dynamics isn’t a simple thing. Also, I dunno why I’m 
arguing this. It’s not like you’ve given a reason why an increasing population 
is a problem.


From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Scheidel
Sent: 16 February 2015 3:20 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail

Countries with stable populations usually have stable economies or whatever it 
is that allows them to be be happy.
I know the tax in most of these countries is very very high but it's fine 
because everyone receiving is also paying.


On 16 February 2015 at 15:15, sameegh jardine 
<sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I tend to agree - I think the bigger issue has got to do with resource 
distribution. People tend to want more than what they really need.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Huh?
Too many for what? There is enough space for people to live, more than enough 
food for the whole planet.
Sure there are lots of issues in the world but overpopulation isn’t actually 
one of them.

From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Scheidel
Sent: 16 February 2015 3:00 PM

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail

Almost every problem we have as people here on on earth is that there are just 
too many of us.


On 16 February 2015 at 14:57, Nicholas Robertson-Muir 
<nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Just wrote 4 paragraphs of my thoughts on racism and then deleted it.

Fuck politics.
On 16 Feb 2015 14:49, "Ashraf Barendse" 
<ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Damn Japs, why they gotta be racist. Slanty-eyed rice eaters.
:P
HBD Jag.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Di Lhong 
<geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Yeah. It's not they discriminate and treat you differently. If you're whatever 
race and you go to japan. They treat you nicely. It's just the idea of sharing 
their environment with people they don't know or foreigners.

Also a lot of issue started when Japan allowed thailand to travel to japan by 
getting a tourist visa on arrival...A LOT of illegal immigrants went in to 
Japan. I think at least 6,000 in the first 3 months. And the thai tourist are 
very loud and dirty...throwing shit everywhere, not lining up, etc. Fuelling 
the japanese xenophobia even more.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Stephen Scheidel 
<gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Well there is a difference between pride and hating others.
I get what Di is saying though ~ basically it's not so much that they hate 
other people (they obviously do to some extent) but more that they just want to 
be around their own kind.

On 16 February 2015 at 14:36, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Pride?
It’s not pride behind racism. It’s hate.

From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On 
Behalf Of Di Lhong
Sent: 16 February 2015 2:31 PM

To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail

Well, asians are pretty racist and xenophobic...so i'm not too surprise they 
wrote something like that. They're pretty racist and xenophobic among 
themselves too. Chinese vs Japanese. Thai vs everyone else. Etc. Too much pride 
in their own race and country.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Stephen Scheidel 
<gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I think it was on some comedy show I was watching where the guy covers some 
similar stuff.
Some old sports team owner was caught saying something racist and there was a 
big stink.
What the fuck do they expect ? the parents of Americans who are 80+ now where 
the generation that finished off the Native american holocaust ffs.

It just sucks when these old geezers still have some power in the world and you 
can't just wheel them down the hallway like crazy old grandma.

On 16 February 2015 at 14:21, Stephen Scheidel 
<gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Forced segregation is a shit idea and never works.
I hope nobody is too surprised by this Japanese womans' ideas.
Keep in mind she was 8 years old when the Americans dropped the bombs on them.
She is 83 now.
To expect anything but racism and xenophobia out of her is a bit much.

It's all super wrong but we just shouldn't be surprised.


On 16 February 2015 at 14:08, Stephen Scheidel 
<gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
HBD Jagson.

On 16 February 2015 at 13:46, Ryan Williams 
<ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Yeah, read about this earlier. How fucked up can you get.
On 16 Feb 2015 13:04, "Manase Zote" 
<bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Japan please...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/11414141/Japanese-author-provokes-furious-South-African-response-by-suggesting-a-new-apartheid.html
On 16 Feb 2015 12:53, "Moshe Shevel" 
<jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaguguarang@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Haha thanks guys :)
On 16 Feb 2015 12:47 PM, "Sameegh Jardine" 
<sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Happy Birthday Jag, hope you have an awesome one :]

On 16 Feb 2015, at 12:41 PM, "Donaldson, Alasdair" 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Oh, nice one Ilit. You couldn’t have posted that first thing this morning, 
could you? So we’re now all the schmucks who didn’t realise it was his birthday.

In other news, HDB Jag.

From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
Sent: 16 February 2015 12:37 PM
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail

HBD Jag!
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