Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 21:18:39 +0200

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On 11 February 2015 at 20:52, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Nic plz (stop).
>
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Potempkin rams his fist up, then you get the love.  Then the explosion.
>> Now you know why there's a heart on his hand.
>>
>> Hehe.
>> On 11 Feb 2015 20:43, "euraima tobias" <euraima@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Tsek, potemkin needs a Ramming
>>> On 11 Feb 2015 6:57 PM, "Nicholas Robertson-Muir" <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Odd, I was thinking something similar.
>>>> It also had something to do with Khan's performance, and "plugging in"
>>>> but it involved his GF.
>>>>
>>>> I think he's feeling something for sure, but "under the weather"?  Ya
>>>> right.
>>>> Potempkin's gittin your ass Saturday, right Khan?
>>>> On 11 Feb 2015 18:19, "Stephen Scheidel" <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The loadshedding is affecting Khans performance.
>>>>> He needs to be plugged in to recharge.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11 February 2015 at 18:14, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No prob bro, hope you feel better :)
>>>>>> On 11 Feb 2015 17:25, "euraima tobias" <euraima@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry guys, was a bit under the weather so I've been sleeping all
>>>>>>> day. Probably too late now, if guys are keen for tomorrow then we can 
>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>> next week wed for sure.
>>>>>>> On 11 Feb 2015 2:54 PM, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @Khany, is there a sesh tonight?
>>>>>>>> On 11 Feb 2015 13:18, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I read the first episode of James Joyce's Ulysses before my own
>>>>>>>>> stream of consciousness took over and carried me off to a video game.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Hmmm. I tend to prefer stream of consciousness to be limited to
>>>>>>>>>> books.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 12:47 PM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, it's more the surrealism combined with the themes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He is probably best known for "Zerkalo" AKA "The Mirror".  Here's
>>>>>>>>>> a description from Wikipedia:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Mirror* unfolds as an organic flow of memories recalled by a
>>>>>>>>>> dying poet (based on Tarkovsky's own father Arseny who in reality 
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> outlive his filmmaker son by three years) of key moments in his life 
>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>> with respect to his immediate family as well as that of the Russian 
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> as a whole during the tumultuous events of the twentieth century. 
>>>>>>>>>> The film
>>>>>>>>>> combines contemporary scenes with childhood memories, dreams, and 
>>>>>>>>>> newsreel
>>>>>>>>>> footage. The cinematography slips unpredictably from color to
>>>>>>>>>> black-and-white to Sepia
>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepia_tone> then back again to
>>>>>>>>>> color. The loose flow of visually oneiric images
>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneiric_%28film_theory%29> has
>>>>>>>>>> been compared to stream of consciousness
>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_writing>
>>>>>>>>>> technique in literature. The unconventional non-linear structure of 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> film combined with its rich - often symbolic - imagery lends the 
>>>>>>>>>> film an
>>>>>>>>>> unusual power of expression that has found favour with Russians for 
>>>>>>>>>> whom it
>>>>>>>>>> remains their most beloved of Tarkovsky's films.[3]
>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29#cite_note-3>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He also did Solyaris (based on the same story as the George
>>>>>>>>>> Clooney movie), and Stalker (based on the story from the FPS game).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yep, that was TV4.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: Image removed by sender.
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.vetseun.co.za/anarkans/logo/tv4.jpg]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Difficult themes? If it’s like the Russian novels, it’s a hit
>>>>>>>>>> and miss situation even with their good stuff. I might check out 
>>>>>>>>>> some of
>>>>>>>>>> the Tarkovski stuff once I have net access back.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I remember TV4. Was that the one with the star in the 4?
>>>>>>>>>> Then TSS? CCV?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:47 AM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Enter the Void is meh...  Could have been a 100 times better if
>>>>>>>>>> they didn't spend ages trying to get the viewer to understand the 
>>>>>>>>>> themes.
>>>>>>>>>> Good if you're on LSD I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tarkovksy's movies are challenging, mostly because they are in
>>>>>>>>>> Russian, are often very surreal, and deal with difficult themes.  
>>>>>>>>>> Not easy
>>>>>>>>>> viewing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Massive Attack video is Unfinished Sympathy.  The one where
>>>>>>>>>> they follow the singer (Shara Nelson) around the city.  They used to 
>>>>>>>>>> play
>>>>>>>>>> that and Safe From Harm on Zero Hour Zone on TV4 (who remembers 
>>>>>>>>>> that?).  I
>>>>>>>>>> thought you were talking about a movie called Massive Attack hehe.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I liked Gravity.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I’ve got Enter the Void lying around, but haven’t got around to
>>>>>>>>>> watching it. Same with Under the Skin. No idea who Tarkovksy is. Just
>>>>>>>>>> checked IMDB. Nope. Are his films worth watching? I mean from a
>>>>>>>>>> non-technical perspective.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First time I saw the Massive Attack video, I didn’t realise that
>>>>>>>>>> it was all one shot. I just assumed they’d cut it. I forget what the 
>>>>>>>>>> song
>>>>>>>>>> was called, but it was more than 5min long.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Snake Eyes was an okay film. It wasn’t bad or good… actually
>>>>>>>>>> can’t remember much about the film.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know if I can be arsed to watch Gravity. Maybe I’ll put
>>>>>>>>>> it on sometime while I’m reading. The only thing that I’ve heard 
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> Gravity is that it is a very pretty film. No one seems to care about 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> story or script. That seems like a bit of a fail to me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:15 AM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen either, but last year there was Gravity which had
>>>>>>>>>> a 17 minute opening shot.  Under the Skin had shots the seem to be
>>>>>>>>>> influenced by filmmakers like Tarkovksy.  The Protector has a 4 
>>>>>>>>>> minute long
>>>>>>>>>> shot (the stair case fight scene).  Enter the Void is composed of 
>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>> shots (about 1 to 2 minutes in length), joined together by 
>>>>>>>>>> psychedelic
>>>>>>>>>> visuals.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In The Sacrifice, Tarkovsky's crew built a special house meant to
>>>>>>>>>> be burned down in a 6 minute long shot.  Toward the end of the shot 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> camera jammed and the film was ruined.  It took them two weeks to 
>>>>>>>>>> refilm it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr5cYiRPf3E
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  It opened at Cinema Nouveau up here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Long scenes are cool. Barring Massive Attack, nothing comes to
>>>>>>>>>> mind though. Oh, wasn’t the first 10min of Snake Eyes a single shot?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 10:46 AM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Low budget?  Yes.  And it only opened in 4 cinemas, raking in
>>>>>>>>>> less than $500k.  But it's probably best considered Arthouse, not B 
>>>>>>>>>> movie.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can't not notice the camera work in Birdman.  The entire
>>>>>>>>>> movie, barring 1 or 2 scenes in the beginning is shot in one long
>>>>>>>>>> continuous sequence.  It's obviously an illusion but it's still 
>>>>>>>>>> great to
>>>>>>>>>> watch.  There are scenes where they film in front of a mirror and 
>>>>>>>>>> you can't
>>>>>>>>>> see the camera.  There's a seen where the camera follows Michael 
>>>>>>>>>> Keaton
>>>>>>>>>> through a busy square in NYC.  And a great scene where the camera 
>>>>>>>>>> glides
>>>>>>>>>> from the theatre rafters to the stage below.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:32 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  for best gimmick in a film
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> soim guessing if birdman was shot in 30 days , that would make it
>>>>>>>>>> a low budget B movie?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:29:06 +0000
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then I suppose they’d be guaranteed the Oscar.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 7:24 AM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> boyhood - what if the kid died during that 12 years?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "rock is overpowered, paper is fine" - scissors
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:09:25 +0000
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I tend to figure that the camera work is only something you
>>>>>>>>>> notice if it’s done badly. I can’t recall when last I noticed good 
>>>>>>>>>> camera
>>>>>>>>>> work in a film.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Same with most of the things, I guess. It’s only when the music
>>>>>>>>>> is jarring and detracts from the scene that I actually notice it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 12:50 AM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sheesh... apparently the movie was shot in only 30 days.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Ilitirit Sama <
>>>>>>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Birdman's camera work is amazing.  I haven't been that
>>>>>>>>>> technically impressed by a movie in a long itme.  All the while I 
>>>>>>>>>> kept
>>>>>>>>>> thinking "I can't imagine how hard it must have been to film this".
>>>>>>>>>> Fantastic cinematography.
>>>>>>>>>>
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