Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 20:52:03 +0200

Nic plz (stop).

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Potempkin rams his fist up, then you get the love.  Then the explosion.
> Now you know why there's a heart on his hand.
>
> Hehe.
> On 11 Feb 2015 20:43, "euraima tobias" <euraima@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Tsek, potemkin needs a Ramming
>> On 11 Feb 2015 6:57 PM, "Nicholas Robertson-Muir" <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Odd, I was thinking something similar.
>>> It also had something to do with Khan's performance, and "plugging in"
>>> but it involved his GF.
>>>
>>> I think he's feeling something for sure, but "under the weather"?  Ya
>>> right.
>>> Potempkin's gittin your ass Saturday, right Khan?
>>> On 11 Feb 2015 18:19, "Stephen Scheidel" <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The loadshedding is affecting Khans performance.
>>>> He needs to be plugged in to recharge.
>>>>
>>>> On 11 February 2015 at 18:14, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No prob bro, hope you feel better :)
>>>>> On 11 Feb 2015 17:25, "euraima tobias" <euraima@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry guys, was a bit under the weather so I've been sleeping all
>>>>>> day. Probably too late now, if guys are keen for tomorrow then we can 
>>>>>> else
>>>>>> next week wed for sure.
>>>>>> On 11 Feb 2015 2:54 PM, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Khany, is there a sesh tonight?
>>>>>>> On 11 Feb 2015 13:18, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I read the first episode of James Joyce's Ulysses before my own
>>>>>>>> stream of consciousness took over and carried me off to a video game.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Hmmm. I tend to prefer stream of consciousness to be limited to
>>>>>>>>> books.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 12:47 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, it's more the surrealism combined with the themes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He is probably best known for "Zerkalo" AKA "The Mirror".  Here's
>>>>>>>>> a description from Wikipedia:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Mirror* unfolds as an organic flow of memories recalled by a
>>>>>>>>> dying poet (based on Tarkovsky's own father Arseny who in reality 
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> outlive his filmmaker son by three years) of key moments in his life 
>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>> with respect to his immediate family as well as that of the Russian 
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> as a whole during the tumultuous events of the twentieth century. The 
>>>>>>>>> film
>>>>>>>>> combines contemporary scenes with childhood memories, dreams, and 
>>>>>>>>> newsreel
>>>>>>>>> footage. The cinematography slips unpredictably from color to
>>>>>>>>> black-and-white to Sepia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepia_tone>
>>>>>>>>> then back again to color. The loose flow of visually oneiric
>>>>>>>>> images <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneiric_%28film_theory%29>
>>>>>>>>> has been compared to stream of consciousness
>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_writing>
>>>>>>>>> technique in literature. The unconventional non-linear structure of 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> film combined with its rich - often symbolic - imagery lends the film 
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> unusual power of expression that has found favour with Russians for 
>>>>>>>>> whom it
>>>>>>>>> remains their most beloved of Tarkovsky's films.[3]
>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29#cite_note-3>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He also did Solyaris (based on the same story as the George
>>>>>>>>> Clooney movie), and Stalker (based on the story from the FPS game).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep, that was TV4.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: Image removed by sender.
>>>>>>>>> http://www.vetseun.co.za/anarkans/logo/tv4.jpg]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Difficult themes? If it’s like the Russian novels, it’s a hit
>>>>>>>>> and miss situation even with their good stuff. I might check out some 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the Tarkovski stuff once I have net access back.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I remember TV4. Was that the one with the star in the 4?
>>>>>>>>> Then TSS? CCV?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:47 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enter the Void is meh...  Could have been a 100 times better if
>>>>>>>>> they didn't spend ages trying to get the viewer to understand the 
>>>>>>>>> themes.
>>>>>>>>> Good if you're on LSD I guess.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tarkovksy's movies are challenging, mostly because they are in
>>>>>>>>> Russian, are often very surreal, and deal with difficult themes.  Not 
>>>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>>>> viewing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Massive Attack video is Unfinished Sympathy.  The one where
>>>>>>>>> they follow the singer (Shara Nelson) around the city.  They used to 
>>>>>>>>> play
>>>>>>>>> that and Safe From Harm on Zero Hour Zone on TV4 (who remembers 
>>>>>>>>> that?).  I
>>>>>>>>> thought you were talking about a movie called Massive Attack hehe.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I liked Gravity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I’ve got Enter the Void lying around, but haven’t got around to
>>>>>>>>> watching it. Same with Under the Skin. No idea who Tarkovksy is. Just
>>>>>>>>> checked IMDB. Nope. Are his films worth watching? I mean from a
>>>>>>>>> non-technical perspective.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First time I saw the Massive Attack video, I didn’t realise that
>>>>>>>>> it was all one shot. I just assumed they’d cut it. I forget what the 
>>>>>>>>> song
>>>>>>>>> was called, but it was more than 5min long.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Snake Eyes was an okay film. It wasn’t bad or good… actually can’t
>>>>>>>>> remember much about the film.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don’t know if I can be arsed to watch Gravity. Maybe I’ll put it
>>>>>>>>> on sometime while I’m reading. The only thing that I’ve heard about 
>>>>>>>>> Gravity
>>>>>>>>> is that it is a very pretty film. No one seems to care about the 
>>>>>>>>> story or
>>>>>>>>> script. That seems like a bit of a fail to me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:15 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen either, but last year there was Gravity which had a
>>>>>>>>> 17 minute opening shot.  Under the Skin had shots the seem to be 
>>>>>>>>> influenced
>>>>>>>>> by filmmakers like Tarkovksy.  The Protector has a 4 minute long shot 
>>>>>>>>> (the
>>>>>>>>> stair case fight scene).  Enter the Void is composed of long shots 
>>>>>>>>> (about 1
>>>>>>>>> to 2 minutes in length), joined together by psychedelic visuals.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In The Sacrifice, Tarkovsky's crew built a special house meant to
>>>>>>>>> be burned down in a 6 minute long shot.  Toward the end of the shot 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> camera jammed and the film was ruined.  It took them two weeks to 
>>>>>>>>> refilm it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr5cYiRPf3E
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  It opened at Cinema Nouveau up here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Long scenes are cool. Barring Massive Attack, nothing comes to
>>>>>>>>> mind though. Oh, wasn’t the first 10min of Snake Eyes a single shot?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 10:46 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Low budget?  Yes.  And it only opened in 4 cinemas, raking in less
>>>>>>>>> than $500k.  But it's probably best considered Arthouse, not B movie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can't not notice the camera work in Birdman.  The entire
>>>>>>>>> movie, barring 1 or 2 scenes in the beginning is shot in one long
>>>>>>>>> continuous sequence.  It's obviously an illusion but it's still great 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> watch.  There are scenes where they film in front of a mirror and you 
>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>> see the camera.  There's a seen where the camera follows Michael 
>>>>>>>>> Keaton
>>>>>>>>> through a busy square in NYC.  And a great scene where the camera 
>>>>>>>>> glides
>>>>>>>>> from the theatre rafters to the stage below.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:32 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  for best gimmick in a film
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> soim guessing if birdman was shot in 30 days , that would make it
>>>>>>>>> a low budget B movie?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:29:06 +0000
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then I suppose they’d be guaranteed the Oscar.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 7:24 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> boyhood - what if the kid died during that 12 years?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "rock is overpowered, paper is fine" - scissors
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:09:25 +0000
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I tend to figure that the camera work is only something you notice
>>>>>>>>> if it’s done badly. I can’t recall when last I noticed good camera 
>>>>>>>>> work in
>>>>>>>>> a film.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Same with most of the things, I guess. It’s only when the music is
>>>>>>>>> jarring and detracts from the scene that I actually notice it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 12:50 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sheesh... apparently the movie was shot in only 30 days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Ilitirit Sama <
>>>>>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Birdman's camera work is amazing.  I haven't been that
>>>>>>>>> technically impressed by a movie in a long itme.  All the while I kept
>>>>>>>>> thinking "I can't imagine how hard it must have been to film this".
>>>>>>>>> Fantastic cinematography.
>>>>>>>>>
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