Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 15:43:15 +0200

So if Steve  is B Pitt and Raven is snipes then we just need to get some
hype African actor for them to use.
I suggest ~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BymeLkZ7GqM

On 6 February 2015 at 15:39, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Instead of new characters...how about bringing back the other half of the
> cast for T7 first? lolz
>
> I personally would like a strong african chick (military) and an asian
> assassin women (not girls like Ling).
>
> There's not much diversity on female cast as much as male. They're either
> gigantic boobs or anime chicks...
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> *LOL*
>> It's okay bra we are just debating/chatting that's all :D
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh
>>> I was just copy pasting from wiki.
>>> I don't have any fighting history knowledge.
>>>
>>> On 6 February 2015 at 15:34, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nope they don't Paul does Judo and it's not American.
>>>> Capoeira is African by the way Steve.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Do they really need to rep their fighting style from the country
>>>>> they're from? because look at Changs, Lee, Leo, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What kind of unique traditional African fighting styles are there ?
>>>>>> I remember seeing some type of wrestling dudes do in one of the
>>>>>> central countries.
>>>>>> I think a big black grappler dude would be cool ~ he could be a
>>>>>> proper rival to Marduk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay I've answered my question with some googling.
>>>>>> A Dambe fighter would be sick ~
>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2759363/Fight-Club-Nigerian-style-The-brutal-West-African-martial-arts-tradition-country-s-culture-centuries.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Africa
>>>>>> Styles of stickfighting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Istunka (Somalia)
>>>>>> Nguni Stick Fighting (South Africa)
>>>>>> Nuba fighting (Sudan)
>>>>>> Surma stickfighting (Ethiopia)
>>>>>> Tahtib (Ancient Egypt)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Folk wrestling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laamb Wrestling (Senegal)
>>>>>> Evala wrestling (Togo)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bare knuckle boxing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dambe (Nigeria)
>>>>>> Musangwe (South Africa)
>>>>>> Moraingy (Madagascar)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Others
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Engolo (Angola)"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Yoshi can have a sword then a stick fighter should be fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only thing I can see being a problem (besides Japanese racism)
>>>>>> Is that a lot of the African styles are very very brutal and may be
>>>>>> hard to incorporate into a game
>>>>>> that kids play.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6 February 2015 at 14:45, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm. Trying to remember if that's cannon. It was part of his
>>>>>>> storyline in the official Namco story thing back in T2. It may have been
>>>>>>> retconned though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Di Lhong<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎06 14:37
>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bruce is half thai? i didn't know that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Japan is a pretty insular country. Oh, and a pretty racist country
>>>>>>> too. I don’t think Harada makes the game to cater for the international
>>>>>>> community either. Historically they’ve been pretty bad about having
>>>>>>> characters of African origin. Bruce was there early on, but he was
>>>>>>> half-Thai. The capos are Brazilian, so not African (well, up to debate 
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> naturalisation vs. how far back you want to go). Tiger was there, but 
>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>> palette swap. I’ve been to Egypt. The country views itself as part of 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Middle East, not part of Africa. I don’t count Zafina as African.
>>>>>>> I was amazed at the inclusion of Raven. While he does seem like a
>>>>>>> bit of a Blade rip off, Namco actually included an African American
>>>>>>> character who wasn’t a complete caricature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Manase Zote
>>>>>>> Sent: 06 February 2015 12:51 PM
>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Guys is the tekken team racist?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see no characters of African origin in T7 atm...
>>>>>>> What's your take guys?
>>>>>>> On 6 Feb 2015 12:28, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Did someone say Melty Blood?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [
>>>>>>> http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091209080622/typemoon/images/d/d4/Mech-hisui_mbaa.png
>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Rei  is a clone created with no soul and no personality. She may be
>>>>>>> flesh and blood, but there is no difference between her and a robot.
>>>>>>> All of them have personalities in the end, but they don’t start with
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>> Also, by the end of Eva, Rei’s hopes and dreams all that junk still
>>>>>>> don’t amount to more than what’s been given to her (i.e. Gendo’s plan or
>>>>>>> Shinji’s decision). Chi is purely a product of Hideki. Alisa is just 
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> what Lars wants, until she gets the Jin wipe.
>>>>>>> None of them exist as independent characters. Sometimes characters
>>>>>>> in the stories will assume human motivations or such things, but usually
>>>>>>> they’re just lying to themselves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alisa is a different story in her endings – I mean she seems to be
>>>>>>> attending school and actually not just sitting in Lars’ broom closet
>>>>>>> waiting for him to get home.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
>>>>>>> Sent: 06 February 2015 11:40 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eh...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I dont really see the connections that binds those 3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rei & Chi the "emotionless" aspect.
>>>>>>> Chi & Alisa are both "young" naive robots.
>>>>>>> I think Rei and Alisa have got personalities tho but not really Chi.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only one of the chars who really fits the trope I think you are
>>>>>>> describing would be Chi imo
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:12:44 +0000
>>>>>>> Ugh. I have a dislike for the trope. She’s the same as Rei in Eva,
>>>>>>> or Chi in Chobits. Female characters with no personality. I understand 
>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>> they’re popular – they can in no way ever be threatening or take any
>>>>>>> decisions which will negatively impact the people in their lives. They 
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> have no personality flaws because all they will ever have learned comes
>>>>>>> from the (usually pathetic) main character on whom they are dependent. 
>>>>>>> It’s
>>>>>>> a pretty insulting phenomenon.
>>>>>>> Effectively they’re blow-up dolls who can also clean the house and
>>>>>>> do laundry. Character design? What a joke.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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