Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

  • From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 16:15:42 +0200

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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> B+4
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> On 7 February 2014 13:24, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Because you're suppose to become better and better? lolz
>>
>> Yeah, for new players it's almost impossible to teach them tekken...needs
>> a bloody miracle...because if you look at players who have 0 i idea what
>> the game is...most of the time they're doing 2 things...dick punch and
>> crouching kick...because the idea of df and db doesn't register...forget
>> about ws...someone who has basic knowledge of fames will be doing dick
>> punch, crouching kick, F+jab F+kick F+1,2 jabs...because forward means
>> attack by logic...but that's not the case in tekken all the time...sure
>> forward moves are used more aggressively...but B moves can be just as
>> effective as an aggressive move...but usually they serve the purpose of
>> defensive moves eg. Feng's b+4 Eddy's b+1,4 etc.
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>  Making hard combos your staple? Why bother?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm, actually I hadn't thought about the combo difficulty for new
>>> players. It just seems really easy for the average Tekken player.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>> *Sent:* 07 February 2014 1:06 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah but making hard combos your staple is another story. Means even if
>>> you accidentally launch them, you don't go to you half wit combos...eg.
>>> landing a df+2 on an airborne opponent...or Stance cancelling TA like
>>> Jaycee's 3~b~f 1+2,4,bf+1+2 instead of doing her belly bump...with practice
>>> ANY combos become easy. And it took my forever to do Jaycee's 3~b~f
>>> thing...not 5min. If you think it takes only 5 min to do a combo...do
>>> Dragunov's F+3~CDc, db+3 cc d+2 ws 4 d+4,4 (or d+413 if you ss the right
>>> way...not many people notice this) or even his f+443 jab ff+2 at least
>>> 90%...or Anna's stupid df+2 qcf+1 jab qcf+1 f+3~cat~df 2,1...can't seem to
>>> land her qcf+2,1 at the end for some odd reason.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm talking about combos for new players...if you have 0 knowledge of
>>> the game...90% of the people won't even know how to pull off a df+1 or a WS
>>> move...i've tried teaching new people the game and i find it much easier to
>>> teach them 2d games than tekken...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But yes TTT2 combos are easy because of TA. It's because Harada want the
>>> game to appeal to new players. Imagine TA doesn't have that weird slow
>>> motion bound thing going...you'll never hit a combo...And even with "easy"
>>> combos...i still see people dropping combos or doing it wrong (eg. too many
>>> hits)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Things are pretty piss easy when you do things in practice mode and
>>> practicing combos...but landing a launcher is another story when most
>>> launchers are unsafe (or very bad on block leading you to play defensively)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Combos are piss easy in Tekken. Sure, there might be some hard ones
>>> that can add an extra 2 or 3 points of damage, but most characters can pull
>>> off 50% damage combos (with TA) that will take you all of 5 minutes to
>>> learn.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *sameegh jardine
>>> *Sent:* 07 February 2014 10:53 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's easier to get the basics of a 2D fighter down, but mastering
>>> something like SF, Mahvel or KOF is no easy feat.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I find wavedashing easier than plinkdashing as an example.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Similarly, I find staple bnbs easier in TTT than I do in 2D fighters.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  2d learning curve is faster than 3d. when you don't have to worry
>>> about SS...it's pretty easy...there are a lot of tekken players who can
>>> play 2d games...but not many 2d game players who can play tekken. because
>>> if you don't ss in tekken or 3d games...you will die.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When namco dumb downed the game/cut characters for T4...the lost ALL the
>>> hardcore players ...so that was clearly not the way to go. Actually it's
>>> the other way round. Tekken is losing casual players but hardcore players
>>> are still playing and enjoying the game. Because with Tag partners, they
>>> get to experiment with other characters. Once they mastered the characters
>>> they play, they just partner their mains with other stuff to have fun. More
>>> hardcore players are appearing in the korean scene. The korean players who
>>> were popular in BR but isn't present now are either grown up and has to
>>> work now or they're in the army hahaha BR some of them just stop playing
>>> because they didn't enjoy it as much. Also they love the tagging mechanic
>>> because they mastered that long time ago in TTT1.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:37 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  and its still failed.
>>>
>>> 3d is old news. 2.5d to 2d is the way to go.
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>
>>> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 08:33:23 +0000
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hopefully the use Tekken vs SF to test the waters a bit with possible
>>> changes
>>>
>>> But yea, they need to dumb the game down somehow.
>>>
>>> SC5 needs to be popular lol
>>> They did a amazing job with that game imo.  Think its the right balance,
>>> not too many characters, not too many moves etc.  Much easier than tekken
>>> to get into.
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 08:26:24 +0000
>>>
>>> You really think the complete failure of a game (TTT2 is dead in the
>>> West) is simply the result of nerfing one character?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have no idea what Namco could do to save the Tekken series. They're
>>> losing the hardcore players and the game's learning curve means that you're
>>> not getting enough new players in either. Maybe they just need to reboot
>>> the series and make some massive changes. The last time they did something
>>> like that was T4, and while I loved the game, it wasn't exactly loved
>>> either.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>> *Sent:* 07 February 2014 9:57 AM
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also in BR...tier list was stupid...if you're low tier vs a top tier
>>> bob...it's really hard to win...while TTT2 is more balanced out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> T6BR evo is all about d+1 bob...spammable move all day...take that out?
>>> they all quit tekken and bitch about how the new TTT2 isn't as fun hahaha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Well, when it's best out of 5 format for top 8, it becomes a major
>>> snorefest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Tekken not as fun to watch? false. lolz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Looking good. It's sad that Tekken isn't there this year, especially
>>> since last year was so hype with Bronson running through everyone. TTT2
>>> just isn't actually that exciting to watch.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Glad Injustice is still there. KI too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyways, Nick - any luck on the venue thing for Evo weekend? Uh, you
>>> were looking around for one, right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
>>> *Sent:* 07 February 2014 6:28 AM
>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/feb/06/evo-2014-game-line-be-announced-tonight-iplaywinners-fray-catch-live-stream-here/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i agree with most of the line up however , to be fair , KI shouldnt be
>>> there. its still early days and i doubt they'l be releasing extra 4
>>> characters befo evo. LOL @ sfxt.
>>> BB is gna be sooo HYPE. Official EVO 2014 game line up
>>>
>>>
>>> * Ultra Street Fighter 4
>>> * Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3
>>> * Injustice: Gods Among Us
>>> * King of Fighters 13
>>> * Killer Instinct
>>> * Blazblue Chrono Phantasma
>>> * Super Smash Bros. Melee (a spot is reserved for Melee but Nintendo
>>> must approve first. Discussions currently taking place)
>>>
>>> *Additional notes:*
>>>
>>> * Mr. Wizard stated that after EVO 2013, Tekken has dropped off a bit.
>>> With this year being the game's 20th anniversary, the EVO team didn't want
>>> to risk having a new version of Tekken be released, while an outdated
>>> version is on the game line up, so the franchise was omitted this year.
>>>
>>> * Instead of having designated Road to EVO events, major tournaments
>>> with a certain amount of entrants will qualify for seeding points.
>>> Tournament organizers of majors events will have to submit results to the
>>> EVO team. Mr. Wizard mentioned that the system is still being worked out.
>>> These results will only apply for games on the EVO line up.
>>>
>>> * This year is the 20th anniversary of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo.
>>> Tournament of Legends will be back this year, and EVO will also be holding
>>> the 3v3, single elimination tournament, X-Mania US, the national Super
>>> Turbo event from Japan.
>>>
>>> * Exhibition matches aren't currently scheduled, but will be fit into
>>> the line up if they can get set up. Combo videos will return if the
>>> community makes them.
>>>
>>> * If Kokonoe were to stay the way she is now in Blazblue Chrono
>>> Phantasma, she would be banned at EVO. She will be allowed however, as a
>>> patch to balance her is incoming.
>>>
>>> * Developer panels will be returning this year.
>>>
>>> * Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 will be 3 out of 5, as long as EVO
>>> doesn't have double the entrants as last year. Other games getting 3 out of
>>> 5 in top 8 will be dependent on how each game plays out.
>>>
>>> * Bring Your Own Console will be back this year, and there will be
>>> designated areas for players who want to run side tournaments.
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 02:30:34 +0200
>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>> From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> It's like Capcom and SFIV.  They own the IP, Dimps developed it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Xrd!
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 22:05:32 +0200
>>>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>
>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> KI is shit anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6 February 2014 21:26, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Handing out an Ip means you let go of the reigns.
>>> Good luck catching the horse again.
>>>
>>> On 6 Feb 2014 21:20, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  no , DH are just the developers of the game.
>>>
>>> MS asked them to make a fg . they were doing a goodjob and MS didnt like
>>> that. sigh, now i never get to play it. its probably all downhill from here.
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 21:16:42 +0200
>>> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Rare owned Killer Instinct, MicroScrotums owned Rare.
>>> Double Helix now owns Killer Instinct.
>>> Amazon now owns Double Helix.
>>>
>>> Sounds like a planned Coup.
>>>
>>> On 6 Feb 2014 20:53, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  MS owns killer instinct. its not coming on ps anytime soon
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 20:38:29 +0200
>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Yeh, I was as surprised as my opponent.
>>>
>>> No scrap that, he had the look of someone whose soul had been stolen by
>>> Shang Tsung.
>>> Cool guy, would've been neet if he spoke more.
>>> But then, compared to most, I spout verbal diarrhea like Rufus - That's
>>> a close 2nd to GB.
>>>
>>> I called the whole Killer Instinct "buy out" when the studio was born.
>>> Not sell on more than just 1 platform?
>>> That's akin to game programming suicide.  I expect to see the game
>>> coming to all platforms.  The great Enno has predixiated.
>>>
>>> On 6 Feb 2014 20:06, "Jack Steel" <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Great kof 13 vid.Tht anoaxe goro combo wicked finish.greatness!
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
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