Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 16:38:41 +0200
Real rap, GB bodies advice free.
On 06/02/2014, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> but that Ken thing was luck, for sure!
>
> Yeah I did it twice. Must be luck.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 3:07 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> LOL, I really don't know much about fighting games -_-
>>
>> Come on man, I know all that. Your spacing and stuff is just better than
>> mine.
>>
>> but that Ken thing was luck, for sure!
>>
>> Anyway, it doesn't matter.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> If your cr.mk is getting swept all the time then your spacing and
>>> footsies in general suck. The idea is to do it out of range so that the
>>> only way the DP will come out is when the opponent walks forward.
>>>
>>> To understand why your footsies suck you will also need to understand
>>> how
>>> I read your fireball once at quarter screen distance with Ken then
>>> Ultra'd
>>> through it. You said you couldn't understand how I read that since you
>>> didn't throw a fireball the entire round. What you don't understand is
>>> that I made you throw that fireball. It sounds crazy, but it's true,
>>> and
>>> the same concept applies to footsies, except the reactions you try to
>>> get
>>> from your opponent are much more subtle. There's a segment in the
>>> Infilitration vs Tokido matchup where Infiltration starts walking back
>>> and
>>> forward. The only reason he does it is to get Tokido to do the same
>>> thing. As soon as Tokido does it, he walks forward and sweeps him.
>>> I'll
>>> post the clip later if I can find it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:31 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Meh, the cr.mk thing was cool but it just gets swept all the time or
>>>> something like that. Too risky on block too, dp is really unsafe. I'd
>>>> rather toss out the st.hk than the cr.mk, because you can't really
>>>> focus it, unless I'm really close or the focus attack is really good
>>>> (Dudley), so its mindless poking.
>>>>
>>>> Thats why I do it twice or more, without even thinking, because if you
>>>> focus and release, you focus will whiff and I'll kick you again for x2
>>>> st.hk dmg. If it hits, most people actually advance or just don't
>>>> realise how fast and far-reaching it is, and I get another hit again,
>>>> sometimes I'll just do it again, just like jumping. After getting sick
>>>> of
>>>> eating that, most people jump and then get blown up by cr.hp. Its all I
>>>> have to do.
>>>>
>>>> Then somewhere in between I left the frustration kick in and wait for
>>>> an
>>>> opening for some combos and yay, I win.
>>>>
>>>> EX Tatsu stuff is really bad though, besides on block, I just do that
>>>> to
>>>> advance or have nothing better to do. Unless the spacing is impeccable,
>>>> using it to beat fireballs is not so great. Sometimes only one of the
>>>> kicks
>>>> it and it leave you open or you land somewhere in front. Its a great
>>>> option
>>>> but if I could read the fireball, I might as well jump in instead, the
>>>> outcome is the same anyway.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Besides the fact that that's a REALLY stupid way of approaching a
>>>>> match, why don't you have the same approach to footsies?
>>>>>
>>>>> "I figure if I always poke, you won't punish me every time"
>>>>>
>>>>> cr.mk is a GREAT poke because of the conversion into big damage
>>>>> (shouken FADC into most boring combo ever). st.hk controls so much
>>>>> space and is very hard to whiff punish. Plus she also has that
>>>>> retarded
>>>>> Focus Attack. If I react with tatsu using Ryu, she ducks under it. If
>>>>> I
>>>>> react with cr.mk xx DP, she hops over it. Such a dumb character...
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have trouble getting in on someone like Seth, just walk forward
>>>>> and block. He doesn't have the ground mobility to keep up in footsies
>>>>> so
>>>>> he'll either dash forward into shenanigans, do the Electrolux special
>>>>> (you
>>>>> can react to this), dash back to create space, or jump. If you have
>>>>> trouble with fireballs, try EX Tatsu instead of jumping.
>>>>>
>>>>> vs. Rose slide, just do Focus Attack.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:05 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You guys make me jump -_-
>>>>>> If I don't jump and you actually fireball, then I'm like "fuck, I
>>>>>> should have jumped".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> meh, I figure if I always jump, you won't AA every single time, you
>>>>>> probably going to expect me to change what I'm going to do, sometime.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> just need to get in once or twice to win with Sakura. One good combo
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> one ex tatsu into U1. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But you guys like Steve,Rod and Salie are too stubborn, or more
>>>>>> stubborn than I am! "Oh, this is working. Ok, why change? Make me."
>>>>>> -_-
>>>>>> Then I just go in and see what happens :-D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yet you keep jumping in recklessly and getting punished...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:55 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yup, because that move lost me life. Lets never do that again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sap, I'm doing Soul Spiral backdash and slides forever now and
>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>> to win. Rose unfair.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is
>>>>>>>>> *probably
>>>>>>>>>> what happened*.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FTFY.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Told you many times before, you play too conservatively during
>>>>>>>>> footsies. You get whiff punished once and then you never press
>>>>>>>>> that button
>>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:43 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> GG Sap. Please die and burn in hell with Rose.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Seriously, its feels 7-3 to Rose.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Ryan Williams <
>>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *lol* Dragonball Z: Hyper Dimension. Check out the matches :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/PhoenixSA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Di Lhong
>>>>>>>>>>> <numotd@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wavedashing? what game is this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Ryan Williams <
>>>>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wait until you see the wavedashing *lol*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't even know that was possible :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Ryan Williams <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *lol*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That Lumi combo is so legit !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 18:06, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks dude !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 16:31, Ryan Williams <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the DBZ vids are up :) Hope you guys enjoy reliving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hype *lol*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reading in the Barb thread and some guy has made a pure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thorns Barb. The point was to see if he could kill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opponents without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pressing a single button - combo of thorns + life regen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He tested the barb against Diablo in MP0. It took half an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hour for Diablo to die, but it worked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who needs GTA when you have Goat Simulator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTQglGvNUs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://myanimelist.net/anime/10456/Kyoukaisenjou_no_Horizon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some guy on one of my forums recommended it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I'm going to delete that Unbreakable Machine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing. The complete lack of originality grates.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:39 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Horizon does not ring a bell...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:37:13 +0000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, since games overtook movies as the biggest media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profit area, the situation was bound to change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Paas, do you have Horizon lying around? I mean the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anime series.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:32 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When cost to produce games increased exponentially but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> game prices stay essentially the same for over a decade...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting creative :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In short
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Money happened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:23:13 +0200
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > What ever happened to just releasing a game?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 05/02/2014, Stephen Scheidel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Hahaha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > On 05/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I understand that it's not a full game. I'm sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USD30 is a real bargain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> a 5min speedrun game.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Maybe if you pre-order it you get a free picture of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kojima pulling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> story
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> out of his ass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Well wasnt going to be a "big" demo from the start?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Kinda like the ship segment from MGS2. Cant remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it ever being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> advertised as a proper game.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thats how I understood it from the start...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:04:32 +0000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Lol, 5min for a speedrun. No doubt 4 of those 5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes are spend hiding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Two hours of game, with 5minutes of actual gameplay.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup, sounds like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> MGS...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Hopefully they will have a heavy pseudo-intellectual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> storyline to go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> along
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 2:50 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Disappointment of the week
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-is-only-2-hours-long-4291338/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (without assets, of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> course)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the next day or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Link -_-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level of Akuma play
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on fast reactions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combo into reset
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did this because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> was calculating the stun values in his head.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infiltration went for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> DP,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> nightmare.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Go back to sleep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did someone say SFxT ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Let me know were as it is my 1st time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not get copy i had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gears of war player
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friendly .i had a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xbox and ps3 and will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms c what games r
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting.ill try 2 come 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ilitirit but I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> play
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> play on SupArc now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lobby if you want to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bellville?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smashed many ggpo kof
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> 2002
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all cheats 2 no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> profit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms.smash or b
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> smashed"d.^_^;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > hospital,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this man is about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > heart-attack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > Carrington
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I think I'm troubled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GM of Telkom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Claremont.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *facepalm*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priced subjectively...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> See
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overreaction hypothesis, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applicable example.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the title of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> mentioned/used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within the Hedge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Fund
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as can be seen in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> quant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could've made R1 turn into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> R500,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time). Testing for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> adaption
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years of work. HFs is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> finance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-) I corrected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analysis, they'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> like,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe 4 or 5 have any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> statical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went to the extent of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first... which is akin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finding the best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> variables
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> fit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> algorithm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trained using a data-base
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> first,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selects the variables and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> ANN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the computer decide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get garbage out,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so yeah, people have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program it and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learn differently, just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are economic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> shocks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prices will adjust
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> accordingly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual, they won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> necessarily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't always wait
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market at all, else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the market values
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> often than not.If I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on whether a stock
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> falls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earn money, I'd be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> billionaire by now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> @GB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the stock market. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of these funds are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GAs though). Was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> paper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the data is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> "over-fitting",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust to past
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> performance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, most GAs don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so they fail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> miserably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best they can do is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link should be at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give me his email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> address.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kiviets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> lol,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please.i added Hilton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> myself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cellphones where I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> em,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uploading soon :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barendse <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because LB knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> this.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This email is being sent out by KPMG International
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ("KPMG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> International") is a Swiss entity that serves as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coordinating entity for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a network of independent firms operating under the KPMG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name. KPMG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> International provides no services to clients. Each member
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> firm of KPMG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> International is a legally distinct and separate entity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and each describes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself as such. Information about the structure and
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This footnote also confirms that this e-mail message has
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any copies of it. If you are not the intended recipient,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any disclosure,
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other information in this e-mail and any attachments that
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KPMG cannot guarantee that e-mail communications are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secure or error-free, as information could be intercepted,
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This email is being sent out by KPMG International
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cooperative ("KPMG International") on behalf of the local
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KPMG member firm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> providing services to you. KPMG International Cooperative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ("KPMG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> International") is a Swiss entity that serves as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coordinating entity for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a network of independent firms operating under the KPMG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name. KPMG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> International provides no services to clients. Each member
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> firm of KPMG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> International is a legally distinct and separate entity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and each describes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself as such. Information about the structure and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jurisdiction of your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local KPMG member firm can be obtained from your KPMG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> representative.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This footnote also confirms that this e-mail message has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been swept by AntiVirus software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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