Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

  • From: Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:58:52 +0200

I prefer to coward.

On 06/02/2014, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> there is no other way to play
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> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 12:50:09 +0000
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> Lol LB. You play SF like I play Diablo - Facetank and hope for the best. If
> you're dying, just hit harder.
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> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
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> Sent: 06 February 2014 2:45 PM
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> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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> iin order of easiest to hardest
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> baiting
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> inception
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> reaction ---> I play in this area.
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> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:40:39 +0200
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> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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> From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
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> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Yeah it's baiting at the simplest level, but with anything more complex then
> it's like Inception.  You put an idea into their head and make them think
> they wanted to do it.
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> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:32 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>  .........baited feeling x rated
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> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:24:42 +0200
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> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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> From:
> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
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> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Here's an example that even you should be able to grasp:
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> 3rd Strike - you play Chun, I'm Ken.  Every time I whiff a move, you try to
> whiff punish.  So I whiff
> st.lk, see you try to whiff punish, and then Super'd you.  You think it was
> just reaction, but I created a situation that made you react in a certain
> way.  In other words, I "made" you press that button.
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> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> If your
> cr.mk is getting swept all the time then your spacing and footsies in
> general suck.  The idea is to do it out of range so that the only way the DP
> will come out is when the opponent walks forward.
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> To understand why your footsies suck you will also need to understand how I
> read your fireball once at quarter screen distance with Ken then Ultra'd
> through it.
>  You said you couldn't understand how I read that since you didn't throw a
> fireball the entire round.  What you don't understand is that I made you
> throw that fireball.  It sounds crazy, but it's true, and the same concept
> applies to footsies, except the reactions
>  you try to get from your opponent are much more subtle.  There's a segment
> in the Infilitration vs Tokido matchup where Infiltration starts walking
> back and forward.  The only reason he does it is to get Tokido to do the
> same thing.  As soon as Tokido does
>  it, he walks forward and sweeps him.  I'll post the clip later if I can
> find it.
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> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:31 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Meh, the
> cr.mk thing was cool but it just gets swept all the time or something like
> that. Too risky on block too, dp is really unsafe. I'd rather toss out the
> st.hk than the
> cr.mk, because you can't really focus it, unless I'm really close or the
> focus attack is really good (Dudley), so its mindless poking.
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> Thats why I do it twice or more, without even thinking, because if you focus
> and release, you focus will whiff and I'll kick you again for x2
> st.hk dmg. If it hits, most people actually advance or just don't realise
> how fast and far-reaching it is, and I get another hit again, sometimes I'll
> just do it again, just like jumping. After getting sick of eating
>  that, most people jump and then get blown up by cr.hp. Its all I have to
> do.
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> Then somewhere in between I left the frustration kick in and wait for an
> opening for some combos and yay, I win.
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> EX Tatsu stuff is really bad though, besides on block, I just do that to
> advance or have nothing better to do. Unless the spacing is impeccable,
> using it to beat
>  fireballs is not so great. Sometimes only one of the kicks it and it leave
> you open or you land somewhere in front. Its a great option but if I could
> read the fireball, I might as well jump in instead, the outcome is the same
> anyway.
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> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Besides the fact that that's a REALLY stupid way of approaching a match, why
> don't you have the same approach to footsies?
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> "I figure if I always poke, you won't punish me every time"
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> cr.mk is a GREAT poke because of the conversion into big damage (shouken
> FADC into most boring combo ever).
> st.hk controls so much space and is very hard to whiff punish.  Plus she
> also has that retarded Focus Attack.  If I react with tatsu using Ryu, she
> ducks under it.  If I react with
> cr.mk xx DP, she hops over it.  Such a dumb character...
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> If you have trouble getting in on someone like Seth, just walk forward and
> block.  He doesn't have the ground mobility to keep up in footsies so he'll
> either
>  dash forward into shenanigans, do the Electrolux special (you can react to
> this), dash back to create space, or jump.  If you have trouble with
> fireballs, try EX Tatsu instead of jumping.
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> vs. Rose slide, just do Focus Attack.
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> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:05 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> You guys make me jump -_-
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> If I don't jump and you actually fireball, then I'm like "fuck, I should
> have jumped".
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> meh, I figure if I always jump, you won't AA every single time, you probably
> going to expect me to change what I'm going to do, sometime. I just need to
> get in once or twice to win with Sakura. One good combo and one ex tatsu
> into U1. :-)
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> But you guys like Steve,Rod and Salie are too stubborn, or more stubborn
> than I am! "Oh, this is working. Ok, why change? Make me." -_- Then I just
> go in and
>  see what happens :-D
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> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> And yet you keep jumping in recklessly and getting punished...
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> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:55 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Yup, because that move lost me life. Lets never do that again.
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> Sap, I'm doing Soul Spiral backdash and slides forever now and going to win.
> Rose unfair.
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> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is
> probably what happened.
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> FTFY.
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> Told you many times before, you play too conservatively during footsies.
> You get whiff punished once and then you never press that button again.
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> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:43 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> GG Sap. Please die and burn in hell with Rose.
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> Seriously, its feels 7-3 to Rose.
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> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is
> impossible.
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> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> *lol* Dragonball Z: Hyper Dimension. Check out the matches :)
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> http://www.youtube.com/user/PhoenixSA
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> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> wavedashing? what game is this?
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> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Wait until you see the wavedashing *lol*
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> I didn't even know that was possible :)
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> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> *lol*
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> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
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> That Lumi combo is so legit !
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> On 5 February 2014 18:06, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Thanks dude !
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> On 5 February 2014 16:31, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> All the DBZ vids are up :) Hope you guys enjoy reliving the hype *lol*
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> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
> <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Reading in the Barb thread and some guy has made a pure thorns Barb. The
> point was to see if he could kill opponents without pressing a single button
> - combo
>  of thorns + life regen.
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> He tested the barb against Diablo in MP0. It took half an hour for Diablo to
> die, but it worked.
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> From:
> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Di Lhong
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> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:48 PM
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> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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> Who needs GTA when you have Goat Simulator!
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTQglGvNUs
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> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
> <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> http://myanimelist.net/anime/10456/Kyoukaisenjou_no_Horizon
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> Some guy on one of my forums recommended it.
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> I think I'm going to delete that Unbreakable Machine thing. The complete
> lack of originality grates.
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> From:
> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
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> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:39 PM
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> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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> Horizon does not ring a bell...
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> From:
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
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> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:37:13 +0000
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> Yeah, since games overtook movies as the biggest media profit area, the
> situation was bound to change.
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> Hey Paas, do you have Horizon lying around? I mean the anime series.
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> From:
> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
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> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:32 PM
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> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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> When cost to produce games increased exponentially but game prices stay
> essentially the same for over a decade...  people start getting creative :P
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> In short
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> Money happened
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>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:23:13 +0200
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>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
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>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> What ever happened to just releasing a game?
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>> On 05/02/2014, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> > Hahaha
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>> >
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>> > On 05/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
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>> >> I understand that it's not a full game. I'm sure USD30 is a real
>> >> bargain
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>> >> for
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>> >> a 5min speedrun game.
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>> >>
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>> >> Maybe if you pre-order it you get a free picture of Kojima pulling the
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>> >> story
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>> >> out of his ass.
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>> >>
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>> >> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
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>> >> On
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>> >> Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
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>> >> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:10 PM
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>> >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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>> >>
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>> >> Well wasnt going to be a "big" demo from the start?
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>> >>
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>> >> Kinda like the ship segment from MGS2. Cant remember it ever being
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>> >> advertised as a proper game.
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>> >>
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>> >> Thats how I understood it from the start...
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>> >> ________________________________
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>> >> From:
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
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>> >> To:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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>> >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:04:32 +0000
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>> >> Lol, 5min for a speedrun. No doubt 4 of those 5 minutes are spend
>> >> hiding.
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>> >>
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>> >> Two hours of game, with 5minutes of actual gameplay. Yup, sounds like
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>> >> MGS...
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>> >> Hopefully they will have a heavy pseudo-intellectual storyline to go
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>> >> along
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>> >> with it.
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>> >>
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>> >> From:
> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
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>> >> Sent: 05 February 2014 2:50 PM
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>> >> To:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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>> >>
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>> >> Disappointment of the week
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>> >>
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>> >>
> http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-is-only-2-hours-long-4291338/
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>> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Ilitirit Sama
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>> >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> >> Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source code (without assets,
>> >> of
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>> >> course)
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>> >> https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68
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>> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama
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>> >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> >> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel in the next day
>> >> or
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>> >> so.
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>> >>
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>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc
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>> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington
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>> >> <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> >> wrote:
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>> >> Link -_-
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>> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
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>> >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> >> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest level of Akuma play
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>> >> I've
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>> >> seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding on fast reactions
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>> >> and
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>> >> situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a combo into reset
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>> >> which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP. He did this
>> >> because
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>> >> he
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>> >> was calculating the stun values in his head. Infiltration went for the
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>> >> DP,
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>> >> it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro.
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>> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
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>> >> <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
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>> >> wrote:
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>> >> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare.
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>> >>
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>> >> From:
> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
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>> >> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
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>> >> Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM
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>> >> To:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> >>
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>> >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
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>> >>
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>> >> Go back to sleep.
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>> >>
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>> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington
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>> >> <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> >> wrote:
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>> >> Did someone say SFxT ?
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>> >>
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>> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B
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>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> >> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA
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>> >>
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>> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel
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>> >> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> >> Let me know were as it is my 1st time
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>> >>
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>> >> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
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>> >> wrote:
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>> >>> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get copy i
>> >>> had
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>> >>> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of war player
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>> >>> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
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>> >>>
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>> >>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
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>> >>> wrote:
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>> >>>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly .i had a
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>> >>>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and ps3 and
>> >>>> will
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>> >>>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c what games
>> >>>> r
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>> >>>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill try 2 come 2
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>> >>>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
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>> >>>>
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>> >>>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama
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>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>
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>> >>>> wrote:
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>> >>>>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit but I
>> >>>>> don't
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>> >>>>> play
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>> >>>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on SupArc now.
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>> >>>>> It's
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>> >>>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if you want
>> >>>>> to.
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>> >>>>>
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>> >>>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in Bellville?
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>> >>>>>
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>> >>>>>
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>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel
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>> >>>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> >>>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many ggpo kof
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>> >>>>>> 2002
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>> >>>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats 2 no
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>> >>>>>> profit
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>> >>>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash or b
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>> >>>>>> smashed"d.^_^;)
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>> >>>>>>
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>> >>>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
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>> >>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> >>>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me?
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>> >>>>>> >
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>> >>>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man is
>> >>>>>> > about
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>> >>>>>> > to
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>> >>>>>> have a
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>> >>>>>> > heart-attack.
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>> >>>>>> >
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>> >>>>>> >
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>> >>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
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>> >>>>>> > <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>
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>> >>>>>> >> wrote:
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>> >>>>>> >
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>> >>>>>> >> I think I'm troubled.
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>> >>>>>> >>
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>> >>>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of Telkom
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>> >>>>>> >> Claremont.
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>> >>>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... *facepalm*.
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>> >>>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B"
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>> >>>>>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> >>>>>> >>
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>> >>>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced
>> >>>>>> >>> subjectively...
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>> >>>>>> >>> See
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>> >>>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction hypothesis, or
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>> >>>>>> >>> google
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>> >>>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable
>> >>>>>> >>> example.
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>> >>>>>> >>>
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>> >>>>>> >>>
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>> >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B
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>> >>>>>> >>> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> >>>>>> >>>
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>> >>>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of the
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>> >>>>>> >>>> article
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>> >>>>>> or
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>> >>>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
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>> >>>>>> >>>>
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>> >>>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the Hedge
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>> >>>>>> >>>> Fund
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>> >>>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen in
>> >>>>>> >>>> the
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>> >>>>>> >>>> quant
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>> >>>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn
>> >>>>>> >>>> into
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>> >>>>>> >>>> R500,
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>> >>>>>> >>>> if
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>> >>>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing for
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>> >>>>>> >>>> adaption
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>> >>>>>> >>>> here
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>> >>>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs is
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>> >>>>>> >>>> also
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>> >>>>>> >>>> the
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>> >>>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
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>> >>>>>> >>>>
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>> >>>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I corrected
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>> >>>>>> >>>> this
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>> >>>>>> >>>> when
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>> >>>>>> >>>> I
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>> >>>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd
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>> >>>>>> >>>> implement
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>> >>>>>> >>>> like,
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>> >>>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5 have
>> >>>>>> >>>> any
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>> >>>>>> >>>> statical
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>> >>>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the extent
>> >>>>>> >>>> of
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>> >>>>>> running
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>> >>>>>> >>>> a
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which is
>> >>>>>> >>>> akin
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> to
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> variables
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> that
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> fit
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a
>> >>>>>> >>>> data-base
>
>> >>>>>> first,
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the variables
>> >>>>>> >>>> and
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> the
>
>> >>>>>> ANN
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> is
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the computer decide
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> what
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> it
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so.
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage
>> >>>>>> >>>> out,
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> that
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> is
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, people
>> >>>>>> >>>> have
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> used
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> GA's
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and I
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> would
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> is
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn differently,
>> >>>>>> >>>> just
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> as
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> we
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> do.
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are
>> >>>>>> >>>> economic
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> shocks,
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will adjust
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> accordingly
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they won't
>
>> >>>>>> necessarily
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> be
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always
>> >>>>>> >>>> wait
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> for
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> some
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all, else
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> I'd
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> go
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market
>> >>>>>> >>>> values
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> it
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> at
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> and
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If I
>> >>>>>> >>>> had
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> a
>
>> >>>>>> basic
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a
>> >>>>>> >>>> stock
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> falls
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money, I'd
>> >>>>>> >>>> be
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> a
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> billionaire by now.
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>
>> >>>>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote:
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> @GB
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock market.
>> >>>>>> >>>>> It
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> seems
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these funds
>> >>>>>> >>>>> are
>
>> >>>>>> already
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though). Was
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> that
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> paper
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of the
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> questions
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> I
>
>> >>>>>> had.
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> It
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the data
>> >>>>>> >>>>> is
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> run
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> on
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> live
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> "over-fitting",
>
>> >>>>>> which
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> is
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to past
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> performance
>
>> >>>>>> in
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, most GAs
>> >>>>>> >>>>> don't
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> take
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> into
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> miserably
>
>> >>>>>> when
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> they
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best they can do
>> >>>>>> >>>>> is
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> to
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> try
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> to
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote:
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link should be at
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>> the
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me his email
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>> address.
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote:
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> lol,
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added Hilton
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> myself
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> ,
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> From:
> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> To:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where I
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> can
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> see
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> em,
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :)
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
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>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
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>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
>
>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because LB knows
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>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> this.
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>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
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