*LOL* On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > A Sakura player saying Rose is unfair. > > When did we enter the bizzarro universe? > > On 06/02/2014, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Yeah, because we all know she wins majors internationally and is a very > > popular character that is used by most top players :P *lol* Rose is fair > :P > > I think the biggest issue you have with the matchup is that you actually > > have to think before you act instead of auto-piloting your way to > victory. > > There's nothing wrong with that. In a 5-5, that's exactly how it should > be. > > No room for error - the winner is the one who screws up less. > > > > But please play her *lol* I encourage it wholeheartedly. You might > actually > > learn something about space control and legitimate footsies using a > > fundamentals-based character. I'd love to see how you do against the > other > > guys on Sat using Rose :P > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:55 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Yup, because that move lost me life. Lets never do that again. > >> > >> Sap, I'm doing Soul Spiral backdash and slides forever now and going to > >> win. Rose unfair. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is > >>> *probably > >>>> what happened*. > >>> > >>> > >>> FTFY. > >>> > >>> Told you many times before, you play too conservatively during > footsies. > >>> You get whiff punished once and then you never press that button again. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:43 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>>> GG Sap. Please die and burn in hell with Rose. > >>>> > >>>> Seriously, its feels 7-3 to Rose. > >>>> > >>>> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is > >>>> impossible. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Ryan Williams > >>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> *lol* Dragonball Z: Hyper Dimension. Check out the matches :) > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/PhoenixSA > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> wavedashing? what game is this? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Ryan Williams > >>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Wait until you see the wavedashing *lol* > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I didn't even know that was possible :) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Ryan Williams > >>>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> *lol* > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Scheidel < > >>>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> That Lumi combo is so legit ! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 18:06, Stephen Scheidel > >>>>>>>>> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks dude ! > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 16:31, Ryan Williams > >>>>>>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> All the DBZ vids are up :) Hope you guys enjoy reliving the > hype > >>>>>>>>>>> *lol* > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < > >>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Reading in the Barb thread and some guy has made a pure > thorns > >>>>>>>>>>>> Barb. The point was to see if he could kill opponents without > >>>>>>>>>>>> pressing a > >>>>>>>>>>>> single button - combo of thorns + life regen. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> He tested the barb against Diablo in MP0. It took half an hour > >>>>>>>>>>>> for Diablo to die, but it worked. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: > >>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:48 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Who needs GTA when you have Goat Simulator! > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTQglGvNUs > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < > >>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://myanimelist.net/anime/10456/Kyoukaisenjou_no_Horizon > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Some guy on one of my forums recommended it. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I think I'm going to delete that Unbreakable Machine thing. > The > >>>>>>>>>>>> complete lack of originality grates. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: > >>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:39 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Horizon does not ring a bell... > >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi > >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:37:13 +0000 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, since games overtook movies as the biggest media profit > >>>>>>>>>>>> area, the situation was bound to change. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Paas, do you have Horizon lying around? I mean the anime > >>>>>>>>>>>> series. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx< > cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] > >>>>>>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:32 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> When cost to produce games increased exponentially but game > >>>>>>>>>>>> prices stay essentially the same for over a decade... people > >>>>>>>>>>>> start getting > >>>>>>>>>>>> creative :P > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In short > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Money happened > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:23:13 +0200 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi > >>>>>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > What ever happened to just releasing a game? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > On 05/02/2014, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > Hahaha > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > On 05/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair < > >>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I understand that it's not a full game. I'm sure USD30 is > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> a > >>>>>>>>>>>> real bargain > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> for > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> a 5min speedrun game. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Maybe if you pre-order it you get a free picture of > Kojima > >>>>>>>>>>>> pulling the > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> story > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> out of his ass. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx< > cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ] > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Behalf Of Wynand-Ben > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:10 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Well wasnt going to be a "big" demo from the start? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Kinda like the ship segment from MGS2. Cant remember it > >>>>>>>>>>>> ever being > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> advertised as a proper game. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thats how I understood it from the start... > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> ________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: > >>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto: > alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:04:32 +0000 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Lol, 5min for a speedrun. No doubt 4 of those 5 minutes > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> are > >>>>>>>>>>>> spend hiding. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Two hours of game, with 5minutes of actual gameplay. Yup, > >>>>>>>>>>>> sounds like > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> MGS... > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Hopefully they will have a heavy pseudo-intellectual > >>>>>>>>>>>> storyline to go > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> along > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> with it. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: > >>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto: > cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx< > cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 2:50 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Disappointment of the week > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-is-only-2-hours-long-4291338/ > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Ilitirit Sama > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source code > >>>>>>>>>>>> (without assets, of > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> course) > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel in > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> next day or > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> so. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> < > >>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto: > theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Link -_- > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest level of > >>>>>>>>>>>> Akuma play > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I've > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding on > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> fast > >>>>>>>>>>>> reactions > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a > combo > >>>>>>>>>>>> into reset > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP. He > did > >>>>>>>>>>>> this because > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> he > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> was calculating the stun values in his head. Infiltration > >>>>>>>>>>>> went for the > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> DP, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> < > >>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto: > alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: > >>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto: > cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> [ > >>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto: > cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx% > 3cmailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3e> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ] > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Go back to sleep. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> < > >>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto: > theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did someone say SFxT ? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Let me know were as it is my 1st time > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel < > >>>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not > >>>>>>>>>>>> get copy i had > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>> war player > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel < > >>>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and > >>>>>>>>>>>> friendly .i had a > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>> ps3 and will > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> c > >>>>>>>>>>>> what games r > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill > >>>>>>>>>>>> try 2 come 2 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> ilitirit > >>>>>>>>>>>> but I don't > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> play > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on > >>>>>>>>>>>> SupArc now. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> It's > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby > >>>>>>>>>>>> if you want to. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bellville? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed > >>>>>>>>>>>> many ggpo kof > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> 2002 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all > >>>>>>>>>>>> cheats 2 no > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> profit > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other > >>>>>>>>>>>> platforms.smash or b > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> smashed"d.^_^;) > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was > >>>>>>>>>>>> me? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, > this > >>>>>>>>>>>> man is about > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > to > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> have a > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > heart-attack. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > < > >>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto: > theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I think I'm troubled. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM > of > >>>>>>>>>>>> Telkom > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Claremont. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... > >>>>>>>>>>>> *facepalm*. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B" > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced > >>>>>>>>>>>> subjectively... > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> See > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction > >>>>>>>>>>>> hypothesis, or > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> google > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' > >>>>>>>>>>>> applicable example. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the > >>>>>>>>>>>> title of the > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> article > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> or > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used > >>>>>>>>>>>> within the Hedge > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Fund > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as > can > >>>>>>>>>>>> be seen in the > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> quant > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> made > >>>>>>>>>>>> R1 turn into > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> R500, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> if > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). > >>>>>>>>>>>> Testing for > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> adaption > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> here > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of > >>>>>>>>>>>> work. HFs is > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> also > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>>> corrected > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> when > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> analysis, > >>>>>>>>>>>> they'd > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implement > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> like, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> 4 > >>>>>>>>>>>> or 5 have any > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> statical > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> the extent of > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> running > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> first... > >>>>>>>>>>>> which is akin > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> variables > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> fit > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the > algorithm. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained > >>>>>>>>>>>> using a data-base > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> first, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> variables and > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> ANN > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the > >>>>>>>>>>>> computer decide > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> think > >>>>>>>>>>>> so. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to > get > >>>>>>>>>>>> garbage out, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so > >>>>>>>>>>>> yeah, people have > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> used > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA's > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you > >>>>>>>>>>>> program it and I > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> would > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn > >>>>>>>>>>>> differently, just > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> we > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> do. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when > there > >>>>>>>>>>>> are economic > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> shocks, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock > prices > >>>>>>>>>>>> will adjust > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> accordingly > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, > >>>>>>>>>>>> they won't > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> necessarily > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I > >>>>>>>>>>>> can't always wait > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> some > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make > money. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market > >>>>>>>>>>>> at all, else > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I'd > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> go > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the > >>>>>>>>>>>> market values > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> at > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> than > >>>>>>>>>>>> not.If I had > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> basic > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on > >>>>>>>>>>>> whether a stock > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> falls > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to > earn > >>>>>>>>>>>> money, I'd be > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> billionaire by now. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> @GB > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the > >>>>>>>>>>>> stock market. It > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of > >>>>>>>>>>>> these funds are > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> already > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs > >>>>>>>>>>>> though). Was > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> paper > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> questions > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> had. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> It > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> before > >>>>>>>>>>>> the data is > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> run > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> live > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> "over-fitting", > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> which > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> past > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> performance > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, > >>>>>>>>>>>> most GAs don't > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> take > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> into > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so > >>>>>>>>>>>> they fail > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> miserably > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> when > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> they > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best > >>>>>>>>>>>> they can do is > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link > >>>>>>>>>>>> should be at > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me > >>>>>>>>>>>> his email > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> address. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey > kiviets > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> < > >>>>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> lol, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i > >>>>>>>>>>>> added Hilton > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> myself > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> , > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200 > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: > >>>>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> To: > >>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their > >>>>>>>>>>>> cellphones where I can > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> see > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> em, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> uploading > >>>>>>>>>>>> soon :) > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Barendse > >>>>>>>>>>>> < > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is... > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. 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