It seems 2 me there is just no end in creating new fighting styles in kof 02 and setting people up for a 50% snap combo 2 or 3 hit.or putting them in crouch block(i call crouching tiger) position my free food but some just need no setup 4 overhead smash over and over again. On 2/6/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I know ill join kof13,marvl,strtfght""r or sfxt soon. I did like sfxt > specaily ryu&Paul tag specail tht aponent coming tru the sky Paul > waiting thn punch.i still thnk shen is best firefighters.but kof 02 is > home 2 me > > On 2/6/14, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Yeah, because we all know she wins majors internationally and is a very >> popular character that is used by most top players :P *lol* Rose is fair >> :P >> I think the biggest issue you have with the matchup is that you actually >> have to think before you act instead of auto-piloting your way to >> victory. >> There's nothing wrong with that. In a 5-5, that's exactly how it should >> be. >> No room for error - the winner is the one who screws up less. >> >> But please play her *lol* I encourage it wholeheartedly. You might >> actually >> learn something about space control and legitimate footsies using a >> fundamentals-based character. I'd love to see how you do against the >> other >> guys on Sat using Rose :P >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:55 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Yup, because that move lost me life. Lets never do that again. >>> >>> Sap, I'm doing Soul Spiral backdash and slides forever now and going to >>> win. Rose unfair. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is >>>> *probably >>>>> what happened*. >>>> >>>> >>>> FTFY. >>>> >>>> Told you many times before, you play too conservatively during >>>> footsies. >>>> You get whiff punished once and then you never press that button again. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:43 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> GG Sap. Please die and burn in hell with Rose. >>>>> >>>>> Seriously, its feels 7-3 to Rose. >>>>> >>>>> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is >>>>> impossible. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Ryan Williams >>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> *lol* Dragonball Z: Hyper Dimension. Check out the matches :) >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/PhoenixSA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> wavedashing? what game is this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Ryan Williams >>>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wait until you see the wavedashing *lol* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I didn't even know that was possible :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Ryan Williams >>>>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *lol* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Scheidel < >>>>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That Lumi combo is so legit ! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 18:06, Stephen Scheidel >>>>>>>>>> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks dude ! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 16:31, Ryan Williams >>>>>>>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All the DBZ vids are up :) Hope you guys enjoy reliving the >>>>>>>>>>>> hype >>>>>>>>>>>> *lol* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Reading in the Barb thread and some guy has made a pure >>>>>>>>>>>>> thorns >>>>>>>>>>>>> Barb. The point was to see if he could kill opponents without >>>>>>>>>>>>> pressing a >>>>>>>>>>>>> single button - combo of thorns + life regen. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He tested the barb against Diablo in MP0. It took half an hour >>>>>>>>>>>>> for Diablo to die, but it worked. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:48 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Who needs GTA when you have Goat Simulator! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTQglGvNUs >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://myanimelist.net/anime/10456/Kyoukaisenjou_no_Horizon >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some guy on one of my forums recommended it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I'm going to delete that Unbreakable Machine thing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>> complete lack of originality grates. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:39 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Horizon does not ring a bell... >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:37:13 +0000 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, since games overtook movies as the biggest media profit >>>>>>>>>>>>> area, the situation was bound to change. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Paas, do you have Horizon lying around? I mean the anime >>>>>>>>>>>>> series. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] >>>>>>>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:32 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When cost to produce games increased exponentially but game >>>>>>>>>>>>> prices stay essentially the same for over a decade... people >>>>>>>>>>>>> start getting >>>>>>>>>>>>> creative :P >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In short >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Money happened >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:23:13 +0200 >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > What ever happened to just releasing a game? >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 05/02/2014, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Hahaha >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > On 05/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I understand that it's not a full game. I'm sure USD30 is >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> real bargain >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> a 5min speedrun game. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Maybe if you pre-order it you get a free picture of >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Kojima >>>>>>>>>>>>> pulling the >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> story >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> out of his ass. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ] >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Behalf Of Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:10 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Well wasnt going to be a "big" demo from the start? >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Kinda like the ship segment from MGS2. Cant remember it >>>>>>>>>>>>> ever being >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> advertised as a proper game. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thats how I understood it from the start... >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: >>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:04:32 +0000 >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Lol, 5min for a speedrun. No doubt 4 of those 5 minutes >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> spend hiding. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Two hours of game, with 5minutes of actual gameplay. Yup, >>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds like >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> MGS... >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Hopefully they will have a heavy pseudo-intellectual >>>>>>>>>>>>> storyline to go >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> along >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: >>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 2:50 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Disappointment of the week >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-is-only-2-hours-long-4291338/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source code >>>>>>>>>>>>> (without assets, of >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> course) >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68 >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel in >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> next day or >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> so. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> < >>>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Link -_- >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest level of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Akuma play >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I've >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding on >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> fast >>>>>>>>>>>>> reactions >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> combo >>>>>>>>>>>>> into reset >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP. He >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> did >>>>>>>>>>>>> this because >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> he >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> was calculating the stun values in his head. Infiltration >>>>>>>>>>>>> went for the >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> DP, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> < >>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: >>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> [ >>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3e> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ] >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Go back to sleep. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> < >>>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did someone say SFxT ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Let me know were as it is my 1st time >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel < >>>>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not >>>>>>>>>>>>> get copy i had >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> war player >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel < >>>>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and >>>>>>>>>>>>> friendly .i had a >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> ps3 and will >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> c >>>>>>>>>>>>> what games r >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill >>>>>>>>>>>>> try 2 come 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> ilitirit >>>>>>>>>>>>> but I don't >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> play >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on >>>>>>>>>>>>> SupArc now. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> It's >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby >>>>>>>>>>>>> if you want to. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bellville? >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed >>>>>>>>>>>>> many ggpo kof >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> 2002 >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all >>>>>>>>>>>>> cheats 2 no >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> profit >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other >>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms.smash or b >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> smashed"d.^_^;) >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was >>>>>>>>>>>>> me? >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > this >>>>>>>>>>>>> man is about >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > to >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> have a >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > heart-attack. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > < >>>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I think I'm troubled. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Telkom >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Claremont. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... >>>>>>>>>>>>> *facepalm*. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B" >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced >>>>>>>>>>>>> subjectively... >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> See >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction >>>>>>>>>>>>> hypothesis, or >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> google >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' >>>>>>>>>>>>> applicable example. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the >>>>>>>>>>>>> title of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> article >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used >>>>>>>>>>>>> within the Hedge >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Fund >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>> be seen in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> quant >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> made >>>>>>>>>>>>> R1 turn into >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> R500, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). >>>>>>>>>>>>> Testing for >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> adaption >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> here >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of >>>>>>>>>>>>> work. HFs is >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> corrected >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> analysis, >>>>>>>>>>>>> they'd >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implement >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> like, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>> or 5 have any >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> statical >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> the extent of >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> first... >>>>>>>>>>>>> which is akin >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> variables >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> fit >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> algorithm. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained >>>>>>>>>>>>> using a data-base >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> first, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> variables and >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> ANN >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the >>>>>>>>>>>>> computer decide >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> think >>>>>>>>>>>>> so. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> get >>>>>>>>>>>>> garbage out, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so >>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah, people have >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> used >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA's >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you >>>>>>>>>>>>> program it and I >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn >>>>>>>>>>>>> differently, just >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> do. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> there >>>>>>>>>>>>> are economic >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> shocks, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> prices >>>>>>>>>>>>> will adjust >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> accordingly >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, >>>>>>>>>>>>> they won't >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> necessarily >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't always wait >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> money. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market >>>>>>>>>>>>> at all, else >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I'd >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> go >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the >>>>>>>>>>>>> market values >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> than >>>>>>>>>>>>> not.If I had >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> basic >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on >>>>>>>>>>>>> whether a stock >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> falls >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> earn >>>>>>>>>>>>> money, I'd be >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> billionaire by now. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> @GB >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the >>>>>>>>>>>>> stock market. It >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of >>>>>>>>>>>>> these funds are >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs >>>>>>>>>>>>> though). Was >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> paper >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> questions >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> had. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> It >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> before >>>>>>>>>>>>> the data is >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> run >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> live >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> "over-fitting", >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> past >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> performance >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, >>>>>>>>>>>>> most GAs don't >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> take >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> into >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so >>>>>>>>>>>>> they fail >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> miserably >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best >>>>>>>>>>>>> they can do is >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link >>>>>>>>>>>>> should be at >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me >>>>>>>>>>>>> his email >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> address. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> kiviets >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> lol, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i >>>>>>>>>>>>> added Hilton >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> myself >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200 >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: >>>>>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their >>>>>>>>>>>>> cellphones where I can >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> em, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> uploading >>>>>>>>>>>>> soon :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Barendse >>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is... >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. 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