Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

  • From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 02:22:22 +0200

@LB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzuiWnyfa8


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is *probably
>> what happened*.
>
>
> FTFY.
>
> Told you many times before, you play too conservatively during footsies.
> You get whiff punished once and then you never press that button again.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:43 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> GG Sap. Please die and burn in hell with Rose.
>>
>> Seriously, its feels 7-3 to Rose.
>>
>> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is
>> impossible.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> *lol* Dragonball Z: Hyper Dimension. Check out the matches :)
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/PhoenixSA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> wavedashing? what game is this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wait until you see the wavedashing *lol*
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't even know that was possible :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *lol*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That Lumi combo is so legit !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 18:06, Stephen Scheidel 
>>>>>>> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks dude !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 16:31, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All the DBZ vids are up :) Hope you guys enjoy reliving the hype
>>>>>>>>> *lol*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Reading in the Barb thread and some guy has made a pure thorns
>>>>>>>>>> Barb. The point was to see if he could kill opponents without 
>>>>>>>>>> pressing a
>>>>>>>>>> single button - combo of thorns + life regen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He tested the barb against Diablo in MP0. It took half an hour
>>>>>>>>>> for Diablo to die, but it worked.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Who needs GTA when you have Goat Simulator!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTQglGvNUs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  http://myanimelist.net/anime/10456/Kyoukaisenjou_no_Horizon
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some guy on one of my forums recommended it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think I'm going to delete that Unbreakable Machine thing. The
>>>>>>>>>> complete lack of originality grates.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:39 PM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Horizon does not ring a bell...
>>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:37:13 +0000
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, since games overtook movies as the biggest media profit
>>>>>>>>>> area, the situation was bound to change.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey Paas, do you have Horizon lying around? I mean the anime
>>>>>>>>>> series.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>>>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:32 PM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When cost to produce games increased exponentially but game
>>>>>>>>>> prices stay essentially the same for over a decade...  people start 
>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>> creative :P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In short
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Money happened
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:23:13 +0200
>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > What ever happened to just releasing a game?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On 05/02/2014, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > > Hahaha
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > On 05/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >> I understand that it's not a full game. I'm sure USD30 is a
>>>>>>>>>> real bargain
>>>>>>>>>> > >> for
>>>>>>>>>> > >> a 5min speedrun game.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Maybe if you pre-order it you get a free picture of Kojima
>>>>>>>>>> pulling the
>>>>>>>>>> > >> story
>>>>>>>>>> > >> out of his ass.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Well wasnt going to be a "big" demo from the start?
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Kinda like the ship segment from MGS2. Cant remember it ever
>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>> > >> advertised as a proper game.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thats how I understood it from the start...
>>>>>>>>>> > >> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> > >> From:
>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:04:32 +0000
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Lol, 5min for a speedrun. No doubt 4 of those 5 minutes are
>>>>>>>>>> spend hiding.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Two hours of game, with 5minutes of actual gameplay. Yup,
>>>>>>>>>> sounds like
>>>>>>>>>> > >> MGS...
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Hopefully they will have a heavy pseudo-intellectual
>>>>>>>>>> storyline to go
>>>>>>>>>> > >> along
>>>>>>>>>> > >> with it.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> From:
>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 2:50 PM
>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Disappointment of the week
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-is-only-2-hours-long-4291338/
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source code
>>>>>>>>>> (without assets, of
>>>>>>>>>> > >> course)
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel in the
>>>>>>>>>> next day or
>>>>>>>>>> > >> so.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>>>>>>>> > >> <
>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Link -_-
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest level of
>>>>>>>>>> Akuma play
>>>>>>>>>> > >> I've
>>>>>>>>>> > >> seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding on fast
>>>>>>>>>> reactions
>>>>>>>>>> > >> and
>>>>>>>>>> > >> situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a combo
>>>>>>>>>> into reset
>>>>>>>>>> > >> and
>>>>>>>>>> > >> which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP. He did
>>>>>>>>>> this because
>>>>>>>>>> > >> he
>>>>>>>>>> > >> was calculating the stun values in his head. Infiltration
>>>>>>>>>> went for the
>>>>>>>>>> > >> DP,
>>>>>>>>>> > >> it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
>>>>>>>>>> > >> <
>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> From:
>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> [
>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3e>
>>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM
>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Go back to sleep.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>>>>>>>> > >> <
>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did someone say SFxT ?
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B
>>>>>>>>>> > >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel
>>>>>>>>>> > >> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Let me know were as it is my 1st time
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <
>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get
>>>>>>>>>> copy i had
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of
>>>>>>>>>> war player
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <
>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly
>>>>>>>>>> .i had a
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and
>>>>>>>>>> ps3 and will
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c
>>>>>>>>>> what games r
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill try
>>>>>>>>>> 2 come 2
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit
>>>>>>>>>> but I don't
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> play
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on
>>>>>>>>>> SupArc now.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if
>>>>>>>>>> you want to.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in
>>>>>>>>>> Bellville?
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many
>>>>>>>>>> ggpo kof
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> 2002
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all
>>>>>>>>>> cheats 2 no
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> profit
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash
>>>>>>>>>> or b
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> smashed"d.^_^;)
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me?
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this
>>>>>>>>>> man is about
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > heart-attack.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > <
>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I think I'm troubled.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of
>>>>>>>>>> Telkom
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Claremont.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security...
>>>>>>>>>> *facepalm*.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B"
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced
>>>>>>>>>> subjectively...
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> See
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction
>>>>>>>>>> hypothesis, or
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> google
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so'
>>>>>>>>>> applicable example.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the
>>>>>>>>>> title of the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> article
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within
>>>>>>>>>> the Hedge
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Fund
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can
>>>>>>>>>> be seen in the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> quant
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made
>>>>>>>>>> R1 turn into
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> R500,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> if
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time).
>>>>>>>>>> Testing for
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> adaption
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> here
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of
>>>>>>>>>> work. HFs is
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> also
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I
>>>>>>>>>> corrected
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis,
>>>>>>>>>> they'd
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implement
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> like,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4
>>>>>>>>>> or 5 have any
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> statical
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to
>>>>>>>>>> the extent of
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first...
>>>>>>>>>> which is akin
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the
>>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> variables
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> fit
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained
>>>>>>>>>> using a data-base
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> first,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the
>>>>>>>>>> variables and
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> ANN
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the
>>>>>>>>>> computer decide
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think
>>>>>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get
>>>>>>>>>> garbage out,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so
>>>>>>>>>> yeah, people have
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> used
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA's
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program
>>>>>>>>>> it and I
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn
>>>>>>>>>> differently, just
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> do.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there
>>>>>>>>>> are economic
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> shocks,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices
>>>>>>>>>> will adjust
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> accordingly
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual,
>>>>>>>>>> they won't
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> necessarily
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't
>>>>>>>>>> always wait
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at
>>>>>>>>>> all, else
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> go
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the
>>>>>>>>>> market values
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than
>>>>>>>>>> not.If I had
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> basic
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on
>>>>>>>>>> whether a stock
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> falls
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn
>>>>>>>>>> money, I'd be
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> billionaire by now.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> @GB
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the
>>>>>>>>>> stock market. It
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of
>>>>>>>>>> these funds are
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs
>>>>>>>>>> though). Was
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> paper
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> had.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before
>>>>>>>>>> the data is
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> "over-fitting",
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to
>>>>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> performance
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However,
>>>>>>>>>> most GAs don't
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they
>>>>>>>>>> fail
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> miserably
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best
>>>>>>>>>> they can do is
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link
>>>>>>>>>> should be at
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me
>>>>>>>>>> his email
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> address.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> lol,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i
>>>>>>>>>> added Hilton
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> myself
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their
>>>>>>>>>> cellphones where I can
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> em,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading
>>>>>>>>>> soon :)
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because
>>>>>>>>>> LB knows
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
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