@LB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzuiWnyfa8 On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is *probably >> what happened*. > > > FTFY. > > Told you many times before, you play too conservatively during footsies. > You get whiff punished once and then you never press that button again. > > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:43 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> GG Sap. Please die and burn in hell with Rose. >> >> Seriously, its feels 7-3 to Rose. >> >> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is >> impossible. >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >> >>> *lol* Dragonball Z: Hyper Dimension. Check out the matches :) >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/user/PhoenixSA >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> wavedashing? what game is this? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wait until you see the wavedashing *lol* >>>>> >>>>> I didn't even know that was possible :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> *lol* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Scheidel < >>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That Lumi combo is so legit ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 18:06, Stephen Scheidel >>>>>>> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks dude ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 16:31, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All the DBZ vids are up :) Hope you guys enjoy reliving the hype >>>>>>>>> *lol* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Reading in the Barb thread and some guy has made a pure thorns >>>>>>>>>> Barb. The point was to see if he could kill opponents without >>>>>>>>>> pressing a >>>>>>>>>> single button - combo of thorns + life regen. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> He tested the barb against Diablo in MP0. It took half an hour >>>>>>>>>> for Diablo to die, but it worked. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong >>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:48 PM >>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Who needs GTA when you have Goat Simulator! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTQglGvNUs >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://myanimelist.net/anime/10456/Kyoukaisenjou_no_Horizon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Some guy on one of my forums recommended it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think I'm going to delete that Unbreakable Machine thing. The >>>>>>>>>> complete lack of originality grates. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:39 PM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Horizon does not ring a bell... >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:37:13 +0000 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yeah, since games overtook movies as the biggest media profit >>>>>>>>>> area, the situation was bound to change. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey Paas, do you have Horizon lying around? I mean the anime >>>>>>>>>> series. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] >>>>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:32 PM >>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When cost to produce games increased exponentially but game >>>>>>>>>> prices stay essentially the same for over a decade... people start >>>>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>>> creative :P >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In short >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Money happened >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:23:13 +0200 >>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > What ever happened to just releasing a game? >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > On 05/02/2014, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > > Hahaha >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > On 05/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >> I understand that it's not a full game. I'm sure USD30 is a >>>>>>>>>> real bargain >>>>>>>>>> > >> for >>>>>>>>>> > >> a 5min speedrun game. >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Maybe if you pre-order it you get a free picture of Kojima >>>>>>>>>> pulling the >>>>>>>>>> > >> story >>>>>>>>>> > >> out of his ass. >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> ] >>>>>>>>>> > >> On >>>>>>>>>> > >> Behalf Of Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:10 PM >>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Well wasnt going to be a "big" demo from the start? >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Kinda like the ship segment from MGS2. Cant remember it ever >>>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>>> > >> advertised as a proper game. >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Thats how I understood it from the start... >>>>>>>>>> > >> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> > >> From: >>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>> > >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:04:32 +0000 >>>>>>>>>> > >> Lol, 5min for a speedrun. No doubt 4 of those 5 minutes are >>>>>>>>>> spend hiding. >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Two hours of game, with 5minutes of actual gameplay. Yup, >>>>>>>>>> sounds like >>>>>>>>>> > >> MGS... >>>>>>>>>> > >> Hopefully they will have a heavy pseudo-intellectual >>>>>>>>>> storyline to go >>>>>>>>>> > >> along >>>>>>>>>> > >> with it. >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> From: >>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> > >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] >>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 2:50 PM >>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Disappointment of the week >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-is-only-2-hours-long-4291338/ >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >> Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source code >>>>>>>>>> (without assets, of >>>>>>>>>> > >> course) >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68 >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel in the >>>>>>>>>> next day or >>>>>>>>>> > >> so. >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington >>>>>>>>>> > >> < >>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >> Link -_- >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest level of >>>>>>>>>> Akuma play >>>>>>>>>> > >> I've >>>>>>>>>> > >> seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding on fast >>>>>>>>>> reactions >>>>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>>>> > >> situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a combo >>>>>>>>>> into reset >>>>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>>>> > >> which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP. He did >>>>>>>>>> this because >>>>>>>>>> > >> he >>>>>>>>>> > >> was calculating the stun values in his head. Infiltration >>>>>>>>>> went for the >>>>>>>>>> > >> DP, >>>>>>>>>> > >> it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro. >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair >>>>>>>>>> > >> < >>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare. >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> From: >>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> > >> [ >>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3e> >>>>>>>>>> ] >>>>>>>>>> > >> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM >>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Go back to sleep. >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington >>>>>>>>>> > >> < >>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >> Did someone say SFxT ? >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B >>>>>>>>>> > >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel >>>>>>>>>> > >> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >> Let me know were as it is my 1st time >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel < >>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get >>>>>>>>>> copy i had >>>>>>>>>> > >>> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of >>>>>>>>>> war player >>>>>>>>>> > >>> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around. >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel < >>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly >>>>>>>>>> .i had a >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and >>>>>>>>>> ps3 and will >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c >>>>>>>>>> what games r >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill try >>>>>>>>>> 2 come 2 >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit >>>>>>>>>> but I don't >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> play >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on >>>>>>>>>> SupArc now. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> It's >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if >>>>>>>>>> you want to. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in >>>>>>>>>> Bellville? >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many >>>>>>>>>> ggpo kof >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> 2002 >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all >>>>>>>>>> cheats 2 no >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> profit >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash >>>>>>>>>> or b >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> smashed"d.^_^;) >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me? >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this >>>>>>>>>> man is about >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > to >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> have a >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > heart-attack. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > < >>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I think I'm troubled. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of >>>>>>>>>> Telkom >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Claremont. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... >>>>>>>>>> *facepalm*. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B" >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced >>>>>>>>>> subjectively... >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> See >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction >>>>>>>>>> hypothesis, or >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> google >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' >>>>>>>>>> applicable example. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the >>>>>>>>>> title of the >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> article >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within >>>>>>>>>> the Hedge >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Fund >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can >>>>>>>>>> be seen in the >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> quant >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made >>>>>>>>>> R1 turn into >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> R500, >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> if >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). >>>>>>>>>> Testing for >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> adaption >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> here >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of >>>>>>>>>> work. HFs is >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> also >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I >>>>>>>>>> corrected >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> this >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> when >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, >>>>>>>>>> they'd >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implement >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> like, >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 >>>>>>>>>> or 5 have any >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> statical >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to >>>>>>>>>> the extent of >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... >>>>>>>>>> which is akin >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> to >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the >>>>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> variables >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> fit >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained >>>>>>>>>> using a data-base >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> first, >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the >>>>>>>>>> variables and >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> ANN >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the >>>>>>>>>> computer decide >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think >>>>>>>>>> so. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get >>>>>>>>>> garbage out, >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so >>>>>>>>>> yeah, people have >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> used >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA's >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program >>>>>>>>>> it and I >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> would >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn >>>>>>>>>> differently, just >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> as >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> we >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> do. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there >>>>>>>>>> are economic >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> shocks, >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices >>>>>>>>>> will adjust >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> accordingly >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, >>>>>>>>>> they won't >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> necessarily >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> be >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't >>>>>>>>>> always wait >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> for >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> some >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at >>>>>>>>>> all, else >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I'd >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> go >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the >>>>>>>>>> market values >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> at >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> and >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than >>>>>>>>>> not.If I had >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> basic >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on >>>>>>>>>> whether a stock >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> falls >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn >>>>>>>>>> money, I'd be >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> billionaire by now. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> >>wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> @GB >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the >>>>>>>>>> stock market. It >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of >>>>>>>>>> these funds are >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs >>>>>>>>>> though). Was >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> paper >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> questions >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> had. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> It >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before >>>>>>>>>> the data is >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> run >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> live >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> "over-fitting", >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to >>>>>>>>>> past >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> performance >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, >>>>>>>>>> most GAs don't >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> take >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> into >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they >>>>>>>>>> fail >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> miserably >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> they >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best >>>>>>>>>> they can do is >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> >>wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link >>>>>>>>>> should be at >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me >>>>>>>>>> his email >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> address. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> lol, >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i >>>>>>>>>> added Hilton >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> myself >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200 >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: >>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their >>>>>>>>>> cellphones where I can >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> em, >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading >>>>>>>>>> soon :) >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse < >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is... >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. 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