Cool. I'll be there around 7:30 or so. On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yup. Anytime after 7pm is fine. > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:26 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> SAP, we still jamming? What time? >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >> >>> Wait until you see the wavedashing *lol* >>> >>> I didn't even know that was possible :) >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>> >>>> *lol* >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Scheidel < >>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That Lumi combo is so legit ! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 5 February 2014 18:06, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks dude ! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5 February 2014 16:31, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> All the DBZ vids are up :) Hope you guys enjoy reliving the hype >>>>>>> *lol* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Reading in the Barb thread and some guy has made a pure thorns >>>>>>>> Barb. The point was to see if he could kill opponents without pressing >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> single button - combo of thorns + life regen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He tested the barb against Diablo in MP0. It took half an hour for >>>>>>>> Diablo to die, but it worked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong >>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:48 PM >>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Who needs GTA when you have Goat Simulator! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTQglGvNUs >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://myanimelist.net/anime/10456/Kyoukaisenjou_no_Horizon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some guy on one of my forums recommended it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think I'm going to delete that Unbreakable Machine thing. The >>>>>>>> complete lack of originality grates. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:39 PM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Horizon does not ring a bell... >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:37:13 +0000 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, since games overtook movies as the biggest media profit area, >>>>>>>> the situation was bound to change. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey Paas, do you have Horizon lying around? I mean the anime series. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] >>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:32 PM >>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When cost to produce games increased exponentially but game prices >>>>>>>> stay essentially the same for over a decade... people start getting >>>>>>>> creative :P >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In short >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Money happened >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:23:13 +0200 >>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > What ever happened to just releasing a game? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On 05/02/2014, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > Hahaha >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > On 05/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> I understand that it's not a full game. I'm sure USD30 is a >>>>>>>> real bargain >>>>>>>> > >> for >>>>>>>> > >> a 5min speedrun game. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Maybe if you pre-order it you get a free picture of Kojima >>>>>>>> pulling the >>>>>>>> > >> story >>>>>>>> > >> out of his ass. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] >>>>>>>> > >> On >>>>>>>> > >> Behalf Of Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:10 PM >>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Well wasnt going to be a "big" demo from the start? >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Kinda like the ship segment from MGS2. Cant remember it ever >>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>> > >> advertised as a proper game. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Thats how I understood it from the start... >>>>>>>> > >> ________________________________ >>>>>>>> > >> From: >>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>> > >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:04:32 +0000 >>>>>>>> > >> Lol, 5min for a speedrun. No doubt 4 of those 5 minutes are >>>>>>>> spend hiding. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Two hours of game, with 5minutes of actual gameplay. Yup, >>>>>>>> sounds like >>>>>>>> > >> MGS... >>>>>>>> > >> Hopefully they will have a heavy pseudo-intellectual storyline >>>>>>>> to go >>>>>>>> > >> along >>>>>>>> > >> with it. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> From: >>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> > >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] >>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 2:50 PM >>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Disappointment of the week >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-is-only-2-hours-long-4291338/ >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source code (without >>>>>>>> assets, of >>>>>>>> > >> course) >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68 >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel in the >>>>>>>> next day or >>>>>>>> > >> so. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington >>>>>>>> > >> < >>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> Link -_- >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest level of >>>>>>>> Akuma play >>>>>>>> > >> I've >>>>>>>> > >> seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding on fast >>>>>>>> reactions >>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>> > >> situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a combo >>>>>>>> into reset >>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>> > >> which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP. He did >>>>>>>> this because >>>>>>>> > >> he >>>>>>>> > >> was calculating the stun values in his head. Infiltration went >>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>> > >> DP, >>>>>>>> > >> it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair >>>>>>>> > >> < >>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> From: >>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> > >> [ >>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3e> >>>>>>>> ] >>>>>>>> > >> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM >>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Go back to sleep. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington >>>>>>>> > >> < >>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> Did someone say SFxT ? >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B >>>>>>>> > >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel >>>>>>>> > >> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> Let me know were as it is my 1st time >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel < >>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get >>>>>>>> copy i had >>>>>>>> > >>> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of >>>>>>>> war player >>>>>>>> > >>> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around. >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel < >>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>> > >>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly >>>>>>>> .i had a >>>>>>>> > >>>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and >>>>>>>> ps3 and will >>>>>>>> > >>>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c >>>>>>>> what games r >>>>>>>> > >>>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill try 2 >>>>>>>> come 2 >>>>>>>> > >>>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow. >>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>> > >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>> > >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit >>>>>>>> but I don't >>>>>>>> > >>>>> play >>>>>>>> > >>>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on >>>>>>>> SupArc now. >>>>>>>> > >>>>> It's >>>>>>>> > >>>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if >>>>>>>> you want to. >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in Bellville? >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel >>>>>>>> > >>>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many >>>>>>>> ggpo kof >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> 2002 >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats >>>>>>>> 2 no >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> profit >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash >>>>>>>> or b >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> smashed"d.^_^;) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man >>>>>>>> is about >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > to >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> have a >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > heart-attack. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > < >>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I think I'm troubled. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of >>>>>>>> Telkom >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Claremont. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... >>>>>>>> *facepalm*. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B" >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced >>>>>>>> subjectively... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> See >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction >>>>>>>> hypothesis, or >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> google >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable >>>>>>>> example. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title >>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> article >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> or >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within >>>>>>>> the Hedge >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Fund >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be >>>>>>>> seen in the >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> quant >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 >>>>>>>> turn into >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> R500, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> if >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). >>>>>>>> Testing for >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> adaption >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> here >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of >>>>>>>> work. HFs is >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> also >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I >>>>>>>> corrected >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> this >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> when >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, >>>>>>>> they'd >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implement >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> like, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or >>>>>>>> 5 have any >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> statical >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to >>>>>>>> the extent of >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> running >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... >>>>>>>> which is akin >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> to >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the >>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> variables >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> fit >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using >>>>>>>> a data-base >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> first, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the >>>>>>>> variables and >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> ANN >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the >>>>>>>> computer decide >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get >>>>>>>> garbage out, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, >>>>>>>> people have >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> used >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA's >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program >>>>>>>> it and I >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> would >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn >>>>>>>> differently, just >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> as >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> we >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> do. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are >>>>>>>> economic >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> shocks, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices >>>>>>>> will adjust >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> accordingly >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they >>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> necessarily >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> be >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't >>>>>>>> always wait >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> for >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> some >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at >>>>>>>> all, else >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I'd >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> go >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the >>>>>>>> market values >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> at >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> and >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than >>>>>>>> not.If I had >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> basic >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on >>>>>>>> whether a stock >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> falls >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn >>>>>>>> money, I'd be >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> billionaire by now. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> @GB >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock >>>>>>>> market. It >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these >>>>>>>> funds are >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> already >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs >>>>>>>> though). Was >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> that >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> paper >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of the >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> questions >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> had. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> It >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before >>>>>>>> the data is >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> run >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> on >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> live >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> "over-fitting", >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> which >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> is >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to >>>>>>>> past >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> performance >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> in >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, most >>>>>>>> GAs don't >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> take >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> into >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they >>>>>>>> fail >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> miserably >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> when >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> they >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best they >>>>>>>> can do is >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> >>wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link >>>>>>>> should be at >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me his >>>>>>>> email >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> address. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> lol, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added >>>>>>>> Hilton >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> myself >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> , >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200 >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: >>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones >>>>>>>> where I can >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> see >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> em, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading >>>>>>>> soon :) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse < >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because >>>>>>>> LB knows >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> this. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>> ========================================================================= >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> You are subscribed to the Cape Town Fighting Game >>>>>>>> Community >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> mailing >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> list. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/cpt-fgc >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>> ========================================================================= >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> You are subscribed to the Cape Town Fighting Game >>>>>>>> Community mailing >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> list. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/cpt-fgc >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> ========================================================================= >>>>>>>> > >> You are subscribed to the Cape Town Fighting Game Community >>>>>>>> mailing list. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> //www.freelists.org/list/cpt-fgc >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> ________________________________ >>>>>>>> > >> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be >>>>>>>> legally >>>>>>>> > >> privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> > >> e-mail >>>>>>>> > >> by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this >>>>>>>> communication >>>>>>>> > >> in >>>>>>>> > >> error, please address with the subject heading "Received in >>>>>>>> error," send >>>>>>>> > >> to >>>>>>>> > >> the original sender, then delete the e-mail and destroy any >>>>>>>> copies of it. >>>>>>>> > >> If >>>>>>>> > >> you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, >>>>>>>> distribution >>>>>>>> > >> or >>>>>>>> > >> any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is >>>>>>>> prohibited >>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>> > >> may be unlawful. Any opinions or advice contained in this >>>>>>>> e-mail are >>>>>>>> > >> subject >>>>>>>> > >> to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG >>>>>>>> client >>>>>>>> > >> engagement letter. Opinions, conclusions and other information >>>>>>>> in this >>>>>>>> > >> e-mail and any attachments that do not relate to the official >>>>>>>> business of >>>>>>>> > >> the firm are neither given nor endorsed by it. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> KPMG cannot guarantee that e-mail communications are secure or >>>>>>>> > >> error-free, >>>>>>>> > >> as information could be intercepted, corrupted, amended, lost, >>>>>>>> destroyed, >>>>>>>> > >> arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> This email is being sent out by KPMG International Cooperative >>>>>>>> ("KPMG >>>>>>>> > >> International") on behalf of the local KPMG member firm >>>>>>>> providing >>>>>>>> > >> services >>>>>>>> > >> to you. KPMG International Cooperative ("KPMG International") >>>>>>>> is a Swiss >>>>>>>> > >> entity that serves as a coordinating entity for a network of >>>>>>>> independent >>>>>>>> > >> firms operating under the KPMG name. KPMG International >>>>>>>> provides no >>>>>>>> > >> services >>>>>>>> > >> to clients. Each member firm of KPMG International is a >>>>>>>> legally distinct >>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>> > >> separate entity and each describes itself as such. Information >>>>>>>> about the >>>>>>>> > >> structure and jurisdiction of your local KPMG member firm can >>>>>>>> be obtained >>>>>>>> > >> from your KPMG representative. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> This footnote also confirms that this e-mail message has been >>>>>>>> swept by >>>>>>>> > >> AntiVirus software. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> ________________________________ >>>>>>>> > >> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be >>>>>>>> legally >>>>>>>> > >> privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> > >> e-mail >>>>>>>> > >> by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this >>>>>>>> communication >>>>>>>> > >> in >>>>>>>> > >> error, please address with the subject heading "Received in >>>>>>>> error," send >>>>>>>> > >> to >>>>>>>> > >> the original sender, then delete the e-mail and destroy any >>>>>>>> copies of it. >>>>>>>> > >> If >>>>>>>> > >> you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, >>>>>>>> distribution >>>>>>>> > >> or >>>>>>>> > >> any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is >>>>>>>> prohibited >>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>> > >> may be unlawful. Any opinions or advice contained in this >>>>>>>> e-mail are >>>>>>>> > >> subject >>>>>>>> > >> to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG >>>>>>>> client >>>>>>>> > >> engagement letter. Opinions, conclusions and other information >>>>>>>> in this >>>>>>>> > >> e-mail and any attachments that do not relate to the official >>>>>>>> business of >>>>>>>> > >> the firm are neither given nor endorsed by it. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> KPMG cannot guarantee that e-mail communications are secure or >>>>>>>> > >> error-free, >>>>>>>> > >> as information could be intercepted, corrupted, amended, lost, >>>>>>>> destroyed, >>>>>>>> > >> arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> This email is being sent out by KPMG International Cooperative >>>>>>>> ("KPMG >>>>>>>> > >> International") on behalf of the local KPMG member firm >>>>>>>> providing >>>>>>>> > >> services >>>>>>>> > >> to you. KPMG International Cooperative ("KPMG International") >>>>>>>> is a Swiss >>>>>>>> > >> entity that serves as a coordinating entity for a network of >>>>>>>> independent >>>>>>>> > >> firms operating under the KPMG name. KPMG International >>>>>>>> provides no >>>>>>>> > >> services >>>>>>>> > >> to clients. Each member firm of KPMG International is a >>>>>>>> legally distinct >>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>> > >> separate entity and each describes itself as such. Information >>>>>>>> about the >>>>>>>> > >> structure and jurisdiction of your local KPMG member firm can >>>>>>>> be obtained >>>>>>>> > >> from your KPMG representative. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> This footnote also confirms that this e-mail message has been >>>>>>>> swept by >>>>>>>> > >> AntiVirus software. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> ********************************************************************** >>>>>>>> > >> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be >>>>>>>> legally >>>>>>>> > >> privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> > >> e-mail >>>>>>>> > >> by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this >>>>>>>> communication >>>>>>>> > >> in >>>>>>>> > >> error, please address with the subject heading "Received in >>>>>>>> error," send >>>>>>>> > >> to >>>>>>>> > >> the original sender, then delete the e-mail and destroy any >>>>>>>> copies of it. >>>>>>>> > >> If >>>>>>>> > >> you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, >>>>>>>> distribution >>>>>>>> > >> or >>>>>>>> > >> any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is >>>>>>>> prohibited >>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>> > >> may be unlawful. Any opinions or advice contained in this >>>>>>>> e-mail are >>>>>>>> > >> subject >>>>>>>> > >> to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG >>>>>>>> client >>>>>>>> > >> engagement letter. Opinions, conclusions and other information >>>>>>>> in this >>>>>>>> > >> e-mail and any attachments that do not relate to the official >>>>>>>> business of >>>>>>>> > >> the firm are neither given nor endorsed by it. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> KPMG cannot guarantee that e-mail communications are secure or >>>>>>>> > >> error-free, >>>>>>>> > >> as information could be intercepted, corrupted, amended, lost, >>>>>>>> destroyed, >>>>>>>> > >> arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> This email is being sent out by KPMG International Cooperative >>>>>>>> ("KPMG >>>>>>>> > >> International") on behalf of the local KPMG member firm >>>>>>>> providing >>>>>>>> > >> services >>>>>>>> > >> to you. KPMG International Cooperative ("KPMG International") >>>>>>>> is a Swiss >>>>>>>> > >> entity that serves as a coordinating entity for a network of >>>>>>>> independent >>>>>>>> > >> firms operating under the KPMG name. KPMG International >>>>>>>> provides no >>>>>>>> > >> services >>>>>>>> > >> to clients. Each member firm of KPMG International is a >>>>>>>> legally distinct >>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>> > >> separate entity and each describes itself as such. Information >>>>>>>> about the >>>>>>>> > >> structure and jurisdiction of your local KPMG member firm can >>>>>>>> be obtained >>>>>>>> > >> from your KPMG representative. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> This footnote also confirms that this e-mail message has been >>>>>>>> swept by >>>>>>>> > >> AntiVirus software. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ========================================================================= >>>>>>>> > You are subscribed to the Cape Town Fighting Game Community >>>>>>>> mailing list. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/cpt-fgc >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally >>>>>>>> privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this >>>>>>>> e-mail >>>>>>>> by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this >>>>>>>> communication in >>>>>>>> error, please address with the subject heading "Received in error," >>>>>>>> send to >>>>>>>> the original sender, then delete the e-mail and destroy any copies of >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, >>>>>>>> distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on >>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>> is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any opinions or advice contained in >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the >>>>>>>> governing >>>>>>>> KPMG client engagement letter. Opinions, conclusions and other >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>> in this e-mail and any attachments that do not relate to the official >>>>>>>> business of the firm are neither given nor endorsed by it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> KPMG cannot guarantee that e-mail communications are secure or >>>>>>>> error-free, as information could be intercepted, corrupted, amended, >>>>>>>> lost, >>>>>>>> destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This email is being sent out by KPMG International Cooperative >>>>>>>> ("KPMG International") on behalf of the local KPMG member firm >>>>>>>> providing >>>>>>>> services to you. KPMG International Cooperative ("KPMG International") >>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>> Swiss entity that serves as a coordinating entity for a network of >>>>>>>> independent firms operating under the KPMG name. KPMG International >>>>>>>> provides no services to clients. Each member firm of KPMG >>>>>>>> International is >>>>>>>> a legally distinct and separate entity and each describes itself as >>>>>>>> such. >>>>>>>> Information about the structure and jurisdiction of your local KPMG >>>>>>>> member >>>>>>>> firm can be obtained from your KPMG representative. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This footnote also confirms that this e-mail message has been swept >>>>>>>> by AntiVirus software. >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally >>>>>>>> privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this >>>>>>>> e-mail >>>>>>>> by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this >>>>>>>> communication in >>>>>>>> error, please address with the subject heading "Received in error," >>>>>>>> send to >>>>>>>> the original sender, then delete the e-mail and destroy any copies of >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, >>>>>>>> distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on >>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>> is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any opinions or advice contained in >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the >>>>>>>> governing >>>>>>>> KPMG client engagement letter. Opinions, conclusions and other >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>> in this e-mail and any attachments that do not relate to the official >>>>>>>> business of the firm are neither given nor endorsed by it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> KPMG cannot guarantee that e-mail communications are secure or >>>>>>>> error-free, as information could be intercepted, corrupted, amended, >>>>>>>> lost, >>>>>>>> destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This email is being sent out by KPMG International Cooperative >>>>>>>> ("KPMG International") on behalf of the local KPMG member firm >>>>>>>> providing >>>>>>>> services to you. KPMG International Cooperative ("KPMG International") >>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>> Swiss entity that serves as a coordinating entity for a network of >>>>>>>> independent firms operating under the KPMG name. KPMG International >>>>>>>> provides no services to clients. Each member firm of KPMG >>>>>>>> International is >>>>>>>> a legally distinct and separate entity and each describes itself as >>>>>>>> such. >>>>>>>> Information about the structure and jurisdiction of your local KPMG >>>>>>>> member >>>>>>>> firm can be obtained from your KPMG representative. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This footnote also confirms that this e-mail message has been swept >>>>>>>> by AntiVirus software. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally >>>>>>>> privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this >>>>>>>> e-mail >>>>>>>> by anyone else is unauthorized. If you have received this >>>>>>>> communication in >>>>>>>> error, please address with the subject heading "Received in error," >>>>>>>> send to >>>>>>>> the original sender, then delete the e-mail and destroy any copies of >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, >>>>>>>> distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on >>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>> is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any opinions or advice contained in >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the >>>>>>>> governing >>>>>>>> KPMG client engagement letter. Opinions, conclusions and other >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>> in this e-mail and any attachments that do not relate to the official >>>>>>>> business of the firm are neither given nor endorsed by it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> KPMG cannot guarantee that e-mail communications are secure or >>>>>>>> error-free, as information could be intercepted, corrupted, amended, >>>>>>>> lost, >>>>>>>> destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This email is being sent out by KPMG International Cooperative >>>>>>>> ("KPMG International") on behalf of the local KPMG member firm >>>>>>>> providing >>>>>>>> services to you. KPMG International Cooperative ("KPMG International") >>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>> Swiss entity that serves as a coordinating entity for a network of >>>>>>>> independent firms operating under the KPMG name. KPMG International >>>>>>>> provides no services to clients. Each member firm of KPMG >>>>>>>> International is >>>>>>>> a legally distinct and separate entity and each describes itself as >>>>>>>> such. >>>>>>>> Information about the structure and jurisdiction of your local KPMG >>>>>>>> member >>>>>>>> firm can be obtained from your KPMG representative. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This footnote also confirms that this e-mail message has been swept >>>>>>>> by AntiVirus software. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >