Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

  • From: Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:18:05 +0200

Hello my name is tzietel and I once beat LB in a ft10.

Not much has gone right for me since.

On 05/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare.
>
> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
> Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
> Go back to sleep.
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington
> <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Did someone say SFxT ?
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B
> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel
> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Let me know were as it is my 1st time
>
> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get copy i had
>> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of war player
>> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
>>
>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
>>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly .i had a
>>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and ps3 and will
>>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c what games r
>>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c  it sound interesting.ill try 2 come 2
>>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
>>>
>>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I remember playing you on GGPO.  My user name is ilitirit but I don't
>>>> play
>>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work.  We play on SupArc now.
>>>> It's
>>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if you want to.
>>>>
>>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in Bellville?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel
>>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many ggpo kof 2002
>>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats 2 no profit
>>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash or b
>>>>> smashed"d.^_^;)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man is about to
>>>>> have a
>>>>> > heart-attack.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>>> > <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> I think I'm troubled.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of Telkom
>>>>> >> Claremont.
>>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... *facepalm*.
>>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B"
>>>>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced subjectively...
>>>>> >>> See
>>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction hypothesis, or
>>>>> >>> google
>>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable example.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B
>>>>> >>> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of the
>>>>> >>>> article
>>>>> or
>>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the Hedge
>>>>> >>>> Fund
>>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen in the
>>>>> >>>> quant
>>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn into
>>>>> >>>> R500,
>>>>> >>>> if
>>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing for
>>>>> >>>> adaption
>>>>> >>>> here
>>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs is
>>>>> >>>> also
>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I corrected this
>>>>> >>>> when
>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd
>>>>> >>>> implement
>>>>> >>>> like,
>>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5 have any
>>>>> >>>> statical
>>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the extent of
>>>>> running
>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which is akin
>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best variables
>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>> >>>> fit
>>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a data-base
>>>>> first,
>>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the variables and
>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>> ANN
>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the computer decide
>>>>> >>>> what
>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage out,
>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, people have
>>>>> >>>> used
>>>>> >>>> GA's
>>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and I
>>>>> >>>> would
>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn differently, just
>>>>> >>>> as
>>>>> >>>> we
>>>>> >>>> do.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are economic
>>>>> >>>> shocks,
>>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will adjust
>>>>> >>>> accordingly
>>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they won't
>>>>> necessarily
>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always wait
>>>>> >>>> for
>>>>> >>>> some
>>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>   As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all, else
>>>>> >>>> I'd
>>>>> >>>> go
>>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market values it
>>>>> >>>> at
>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If I had a
>>>>> basic
>>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a stock
>>>>> >>>> falls
>>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money, I'd be a
>>>>> >>>> billionaire by now.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> @GB
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock market.  It
>>>>> >>>>> seems
>>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these funds are
>>>>> already
>>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though).  Was
>>>>> >>>>> that
>>>>> >>>>> paper
>>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone?  It answers a lot of the questions
>>>>> >>>>> I
>>>>> had.
>>>>> >>>>>  It
>>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the data is
>>>>> >>>>> run
>>>>> >>>>> on
>>>>> >>>>> live
>>>>> >>>>> data.  Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from "over-fitting",
>>>>> which
>>>>> >>>>> is
>>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned.  They try to adjust to past
>>>>> >>>>> performance
>>>>> in
>>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result.  However, most GAs don't
>>>>> >>>>> take
>>>>> >>>>> into
>>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail
>>>>> >>>>> miserably
>>>>> when
>>>>> >>>>> they
>>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data.  The best they can do is
>>>>> >>>>> to
>>>>> >>>>> try
>>>>> >>>>> to
>>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription.  The link should be at
>>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages.  Give me his email
>>>>> >>>>>> address.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
>>>>> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> lol,
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added Hilton
>>>>> >>>>>>> myself
>>>>> >>>>>>> ,
>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>> >>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where I can
>>>>> >>>>>>> see
>>>>> >>>>>>> em,
>>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :)
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
>>>>> >>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because LB knows
>>>>> >>>>>>> this.
>>>>> >>>>>>>
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