Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

  • From: G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:01:17 +0200

Oh. Were you perhaps going for links or mix-ups, while you were at it?


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get copy i had
> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of war player
> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
>
> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly .i had a
> > copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and ps3 and will
> > soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c what games r
> > famous 2 play.train.and thn c  it sound interesting.ill try 2 come 2
> > belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
> >
> > On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> I remember playing you on GGPO.  My user name is ilitirit but I don't
> >> play
> >> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work.  We play on SupArc now.
>  It's
> >> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if you want to.
> >>
> >> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in Bellville?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many ggpo kof 2002
> >>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats 2 no profit
> >>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash or b
> >>> smashed"d.^_^;)
> >>>
> >>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me?
> >>> >
> >>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man is about to
> >>> have a
> >>> > heart-attack.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
> >>> > <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> I think I'm troubled.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of Telkom
> Claremont.
> >>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... *facepalm*.
> >>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B" <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced subjectively...
> >>> >>> See
> >>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction hypothesis, or
> >>> >>> google
> >>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable example.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of the
> >>> >>>> article
> >>> or
> >>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the Hedge Fund
> >>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen in the
> >>> >>>> quant
> >>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn into
> >>> >>>> R500,
> >>> >>>> if
> >>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing for
> >>> >>>> adaption
> >>> >>>> here
> >>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs is also
> >>> >>>> the
> >>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I corrected this
> >>> >>>> when
> >>> >>>> I
> >>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd
> implement
> >>> >>>> like,
> >>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5 have any
> >>> >>>> statical
> >>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the extent of
> >>> running
> >>> >>>> a
> >>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which is akin
> to
> >>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best variables
> >>> >>>> that
> >>> >>>> fit
> >>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a data-base
> >>> first,
> >>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the variables and
> >>> >>>> the
> >>> ANN
> >>> >>>> is
> >>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the computer decide what
> >>> >>>> it
> >>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage out,
> that
> >>> >>>> is
> >>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, people have
> >>> >>>> used
> >>> >>>> GA's
> >>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and I would
> >>> >>>> is
> >>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn differently, just as
> >>> >>>> we
> >>> >>>> do.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are economic
> >>> >>>> shocks,
> >>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will adjust
> >>> >>>> accordingly
> >>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they won't
> >>> necessarily
> >>> >>>> be
> >>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always wait
> for
> >>> >>>> some
> >>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>   As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all, else
> I'd
> >>> >>>> go
> >>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market values it
> >>> >>>> at
> >>> >>>> and
> >>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If I had a
> >>> basic
> >>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a stock
> >>> >>>> falls
> >>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money, I'd be a
> >>> >>>> billionaire by now.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> >>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>> @GB
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock market.  It
> >>> >>>>> seems
> >>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these funds are
> >>> already
> >>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though).  Was
> that
> >>> >>>>> paper
> >>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone?  It answers a lot of the questions
> I
> >>> had.
> >>> >>>>>  It
> >>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the data is run
> >>> >>>>> on
> >>> >>>>> live
> >>> >>>>> data.  Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from "over-fitting",
> >>> which
> >>> >>>>> is
> >>> >>>>> something I also mentioned.  They try to adjust to past
> >>> >>>>> performance
> >>> in
> >>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result.  However, most GAs don't
> >>> >>>>> take
> >>> >>>>> into
> >>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail miserably
> >>> when
> >>> >>>>> they
> >>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data.  The best they can do is to
> >>> >>>>> try
> >>> >>>>> to
> >>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> >>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription.  The link should be at the
> >>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages.  Give me his email
> >>> >>>>>> address.
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
> >>> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >>>>>> > wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> lol,
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added Hilton myself
> >>> >>>>>>> ,
> >>> >>>>>>> and
> >>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> >>> >>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> >>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where I can
> >>> >>>>>>> see
> >>> >>>>>>> em,
> >>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :)
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
> >>> >>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because LB knows this.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
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