Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 12:55:01 +0200
Yes. Please come to the session.
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly .i had a
> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and ps3 and will
> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c what games r
> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill try 2 come 2
> belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
>
> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit but I don't
> play
> > on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on SupArc now. It's
> > like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if you want to.
> >
> > Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in Bellville?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many ggpo kof 2002
> >> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats 2 no profit
> >> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash or b
> >> smashed"d.^_^;)
> >>
> >> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me?
> >> >
> >> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man is about to
> >> have a
> >> > heart-attack.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
> >> > <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I think I'm troubled.
> >> >>
> >> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of Telkom Claremont.
> >> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... *facepalm*.
> >> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B" <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced subjectively...
> See
> >> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction hypothesis, or
> google
> >> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable example.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of the
> article
> >> or
> >> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the Hedge Fund
> >> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen in the
> >> >>>> quant
> >> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn into
> >> >>>> R500,
> >> >>>> if
> >> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing for
> adaption
> >> >>>> here
> >> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs is also
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I corrected this
> >> >>>> when
> >> >>>> I
> >> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd implement
> >> >>>> like,
> >> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5 have any
> >> >>>> statical
> >> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the extent of
> >> running
> >> >>>> a
> >> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which is akin to
> >> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best variables
> >> >>>> that
> >> >>>> fit
> >> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a data-base
> >> first,
> >> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the variables and
> the
> >> ANN
> >> >>>> is
> >> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the computer decide what
> >> >>>> it
> >> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage out, that
> >> >>>> is
> >> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, people have
> >> >>>> used
> >> >>>> GA's
> >> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and I would
> >> >>>> is
> >> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn differently, just as
> >> >>>> we
> >> >>>> do.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are economic
> >> >>>> shocks,
> >> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will adjust
> >> >>>> accordingly
> >> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they won't
> >> necessarily
> >> >>>> be
> >> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always wait for
> >> >>>> some
> >> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all, else I'd
> >> >>>> go
> >> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market values it
> at
> >> >>>> and
> >> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If I had a
> >> basic
> >> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a stock
> falls
> >> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money, I'd be a
> >> >>>> billionaire by now.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> >> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> @GB
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock market. It
> >> >>>>> seems
> >> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these funds are
> >> already
> >> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though). Was that
> >> >>>>> paper
> >> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of the questions I
> >> had.
> >> >>>>> It
> >> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the data is run
> >> >>>>> on
> >> >>>>> live
> >> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from "over-fitting",
> >> which
> >> >>>>> is
> >> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to past
> performance
> >> in
> >> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, most GAs don't
> take
> >> >>>>> into
> >> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail miserably
> >> when
> >> >>>>> they
> >> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best they can do is to
> >> >>>>> try
> >> >>>>> to
> >> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> >> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link should be at the
> >> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me his email
> address.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
> >> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>>> > wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> lol,
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added Hilton myself
> ,
> >> >>>>>>> and
> >> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
> >> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> >> >>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where I can
> see
> >> >>>>>>> em,
> >> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :)
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
> >> >>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because LB knows this.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >>
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