In a message dated 5/21/04 6:35:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rhb57@xxxxxxxxxx writes: 200ways.zip attached to this message Russ, if you carry a freezer in your truck I think you'll be safe. The freezer trick seems to be far and away the most popular but I seriously doubt a period of 15, 30 mins will help. A minimum of overnight is my solution. The heat and cold treatment will work in other places too. I cold soaked a large drill chuck that was frozen solid, nothing would move, and after overnight in the freezer, warming the outer ring with a torch and voila'... $75 saved. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Education is when you read the fine print. Experience is what you get if you don't. -- Pete Seeger"