Can't remember if I mentioned this, but if anyone is interested in a free copy of IBM's usually pricey WebSphere Device Developer IDE, I picked up a copy at the PalmSource DevCon that they were passing out thanks to an agreement between PalmSource and IBM to release it as a free tool. To my knowledge there isn't a download link yet, but I'm quite sure there is no problem with burning a few copies for anyone in our group that wants one. Note: WSDD is the Eclipse-based environment that IBM created for doing Java development for their J9 VM on various mobile devices including the newer Palm OS devices. It's what you typically use if you want to write MIDP 2.0 apps for the Treos, Tungstens and Zires, for example. Let me know. David David Beers Pikesoft Mobile Computing www.pikesoft.com 719-963-2319 Skype ID: pikesoft