One other thing that would be great, if he's willing at a future meeting, would be to have Dick Grier show us the beta for Microsoft's Visual Studio 2005 (codename Whidbey) and talk about what it means for PocketPC development. And/or tell us a little about version 2.0 of the .NET Compact Framework. Since we have an MVP in our midst we may as well make good use of him! ;-) David