Hi All, At the meeting someone brought up a question about a Rails like framework when talking about Core Data. I don't know if that exists exactly, but the PHOCOA project came to my mind immediately (even if I couldn't recall the name). Its a Cocoa-like framework in PHP. I haven't used it, but it looks interesting. You can check it out here: http://phocoa.com/ Enjoy! ----- Stephen M. Sebeny sebeny.1@xxxxxxx