[citansdnd] Loot from casino, unarmed strike and bonuses
- From: warrl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- To: citansdnd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:19:47 -0800
Loot from casino:
8 matching goblets, western glass crystal
glass shards equivalent to 2 more goblets
the following gambling chips, actual value (before any black-market
losses) approximately equal to face value
* 11 yellow, 1000 GP each
* 20 red, 100 GP each
* 14 black, 50 GP each
* 19 green, 10 GP each
* 25 white, 1 GP each
Total face value of the chips (which is what Casey said we got): 13,915GP, or a
touch under
1740 each.
GP value of recommended treasure parcels for a group of five level-2 characters
is 5360, or
1072 each.
Assuming Casey doesn't revise downward, we can each afford a pair of level-4
magic items,
or a level-5 and a level-3, or a pair of level-3 and a level-2.
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Unarmed Strike feat
1) Casey originally gave it Reach 1. I suspect this was due to unfamiliarity
with 4th Edition
terminology. If your movement leaves you one square shy of being able to stab
someone
with your sword, just punch him instead.. um... Let's forget Reach, okay?
2) Casey describes the weapon as in group Unarmed and with the property
Offhand. But he
also said it can be used with any (melee?) power with the Weapon keyword, and
let Assad
do Sneak Attack damage which normally requires a Light Blade. There are reasons
why
Wizards puts each weapon in not more than two groups, and even that only if one
of the
groups is "pole arm" or it's a superior/multiclass weapon.
Also, consistency makes life easier. If the "weapon" counts as a certain type
for powers, it
should count the same for feats and class features. Each class is a unique
combination of
features, feats, and powers, and it would be difficult to construct an
"it-counts-sometimes"
arrangement that treats all classes evenly.
I suggest that each player be allowed to choose (individual variations in
training):
a) Unarmed Strike is usable with either two-weapon powers or two-handed-weapon
powers,
but not both.
b) Unarmed Strike is part of any one weapon group, but not Pole Arm or anything
ranged or
thrown.
This is actually a pretty powerful arrangement (better, as an add-on to a
non-monk, than the
monk's unarmed strike would be), but I think this is what it takes to allow all
our melee
characters to use their powers.
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Bonuses:
+2 Fort is equivalent to the Paragon feat Great Fortitude. No problem there.
The suggested strength bonus is +2 to strength but only for purposes of melee
attacks. This
is hard to work into the character sheet, particularly with the Character
Builder, and also
doesn't do much for non-strength-based attacks (Assad, for example, with his
suite of dex-
based powers). When it applies, it works out to +1 to hit and +1 to damage on
attacks that
get stat bonuses.
One easy partial fix would be to just give +2 to strength. But that applies the
bonus to a
number of skills, heavy thrown weapons, and some other situations, and still
does nothing
for Assad. And it would also give another +1 to Fortitude, for any character
with more
Strength than Constitution (most to all of our melee guys, and possibly some of
the casters
too).
What I think is a narrower fix:
A) Weapon Focus (+1 damage) Unarmed Strike.
B) Weapon Expertise (+1 attack) Unarmed Strike.
This is immediately somewhat less powerful than what Casey said, because it
wouldn't
apply to other melee weapons; but it gives the damage bonus to attacks that
don't get
ability-modifier damage, and also satisfies the prerequisites for Weapon Master
which
applies the same benefits to all weapons - including ranged weapons - the
character is
proficient with. That is at least a plausible compromise.
(Casey: The current scenario inherently favors melee combatants over casters.
Sometime
after it's done, can you give the casters a chance to show off?)
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