[ciphershed] Re: Website & publicity

  • From: "Alain Forget" <aforget@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:27:30 -0400

> In fact you are completely right, and it was mere defiance that made me [put 
> the Linux link first]. I hate always seeing Linux as the last option as if it 
> was something weird, exotic, unusable. :(

Ha! Frankly, I agree with your sentiment, but I have yet find a distro of Linux 
that I can use just as easily as Windows. To be fair, I haven't tried many 
Linux distros (due to my own lack of spare time and energy resources). Also, 
like most users, I am a long-time user of my OS. Despite it's imperfections, 
since Windows has been widely-used by many users for many years, it's difficult 
to overthrow the incumbent by convincing people to learn a new OS. That said, 
Mac has been steadily is gaining share for years, so seems like they're doing 
something right. Anyway, we could so easily go totally off-topic and debate 
OSes; maybe over beers sometime, somehow. :-)

> I think you misunderstood the git proposal. We're supposed to write the 
> website (html), then push to the repo online, and on every push notification 
> the server pulls, i.e. "updates" the code it's running. Thus anybody with 
> writing permission for git could change the page, even if it's just html.

Ah, so rather than "logging in" to the WordPress site and changing a page or 
whatnot, we would instead change the WordPress pages through git, and then 
those changes would be automatically reflected on the website? Or am I still 
confused?

Alain


-----Original Message-----
From: ciphershed-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ciphershed-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Niklas Lemcke - ???
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 15:09
To: ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ciphershed] Re: Website & publicity

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:06:49 -0400
"Alain Forget" <aforget@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> > I haven't seen the documentary; is it a thick documentary or an easy 
> > explanation how to use TC?
> 
> For better or worse, the complete document is very beefy: 
> https://www.grc.com/misc/truecrypt/TrueCrypt%20User%20Guide.pdf
> 
> However, it does begin with a decent "Beginner's Tutorial" on page 7, so for 
> now, we could point them specifically to that section.
> 
> If we are going to link to this guide, it *definitely* should be hosted on 
> our own site. In fact, all pages that we expect non-technical users to follow 
> should have the same look and feel, and lead to resources hosted on our own 
> domain. For things we expect non-technical users to want to look into, we 
> shouldn't be directing them to third-party sites, because they'll otherwise 
> get confused.

I'll arrange for that.

> 
> 
> >> CipherShed is available for Windows, Mac, and Linux. [I deliberately 
> >> ordered them like this because I think (but may be wrong) that this is 
> >> most common, and ordered by overall OS market share]
> 
> > I changed that order purposefully. :@
> 
> Hm; if you're hesitant to accept my recommendation, perhaps we should discuss 
> it then. Why did you originally order them Linux, Windows, and Mac? I feel 
> that Linux first gives the impression that CipherShed is more technical 
> (read: less accessible/usable for non-technical users) than most other 
> applications, and that we just support Windows and Mac because we have to, 
> kind of as an afterthought (which I hope isn't our intention!). I feel that 
> putting Windows and Mac first gives the impression that we're putting 
> end-users first (or at least on equal footing), which I think gives them 
> confidence to download and use our software...while more technical Linux 
> users probably don't need that kind of convincing, because they're more 
> interested in the technical and practical aspects of the software...so I 
> suspect they're less swayed by seemingly minor things like order of links.

In fact you are completely right, and it was mere defiance that made me
do it. I hate always seeing Linux as the last option as if it was
something weird, exotic, unusable. :(

> 
> 
> > In fact I've been doing webdevelopment as a job for a number of years now 
> > (see beautifulbits.de).
> 
> This gives me more confidence in your recommendation of WordPress, both 
> because you're very familiar with it and know what you're doing, and your 
> continued use of WP suggests you trust it.

I am fairly comfortable. Also with 3.7 a few months ago they introduced
an auto-patch feature which I believe was a good move security-wise.

For now I will start developing and deploying the WP site. Discussion
can still take place though whether we want to switch to another
technology.

I think you misunderstood the git proposal. We're supposed to write the
website (html), then push to the repo online, and on every push
notification the server pulls, i.e. "updates" the code it's running.
Thus anybody with writing permission for git could change the page,
even if it's just html.

> 
> Alain
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ciphershed-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:ciphershed-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Niklas Lemcke - ???
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:45
> To: ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ciphershed] Re: Website & publicity
> 
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 11:35:59 -0400
> "Alain Forget" <aforget@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > CipherShed is completely free data encryption software for keeping your 
> > data secure and private. Learn how to use CipherShed. [Make the 
> > aforementioned sentence a link to the Truecrypt User Guide documentation, 
> > our wiki, or whatever will most quickly and easily/painlessly show users 
> > what CipherShed is and how to use it. It would be ideal if we could rebrand 
> > and re-publish the TrueCrypt User Guide from v.7.1a]
> 
> 
> > 
> > CipherShed is available for Windows, Mac, and Linux. [I deliberately 
> > ordered them like this because I think (but may be wrong) that this is most 
> > common, and ordered by overall OS market share]
> 
> I changed that order purposefully. :@
> 
> > 
> > The CipherShed project is open-source, which means everyone is encouraged 
> > to examine how it works and contribute new ideas and improvments. We 
> > believe greater participation leads to greater security and usability for 
> > everyone. To get involved, check out our mailing list, forum, source code 
> > [link to github], or come chat on IRC.
> > 
> > For more information about the CipherShed project, please visit our Wiki.
> > 
> > 
> > Hm, good point, Stephen. Niklas, how hard do you think it would be for us 
> > to have a nicely-stylised page like your screenshot without WordPress?
> 
> It would be easier than WP, but only I could edit it. I always use my
> own WP theme. In fact I've been doing webdevelopment as a job for a
> number of years now (see beautifulbits.de).
> 
> > Niklas, could it be easily architected to make it easy for us to make this 
> > switch in an emergency?
> 
> Sure, in an emergency it'd be a one-liner in the nginx config to switch
> to a static html. We could prepare one so it doesn't take too long.
> 
> 



-- 
Niklas

At the time of writing, no warrants have ever been served to me, Niklas
Lemcke, nor am I under any personal legal compulsion concerning the
CipherShed project. I do not know of any searches or seizures of my
assets.


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