[ciphershed] Re: Plausible deniablility and hidden volumes

  • From: Karen Palen <karenpalensl@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:02:15 -0700

It is worth noting that every country grants themselves this right as part of importing things through customs!


The US actually goes a step further and allows "unrestricted" searches without a warrant within 75 miles of an International border - think Buffalo NY, San Diego, Tucson and a bunch of other cities!

They don't even have to give a reason!

The only thing that has even a chance of stopping one of these searches is attorney-client privileged information. Strangely almost every country respects this and typically require at least some suspicion of wrongdoing by the attorney.

When I was traveling (pre universal internet) a lot I included a disclaimer warning of privileged "work product" and "client proprietary" information on the computer. I never did get to test this though, no one ever bothered with my laptop.

Now of course the logical thing to do is travel with a fresh install of the OS and NO actual data on the hard drive then download what you need with an encrypted VPN. My new ASUS router even includes such a VPN suitable for home use!

Mike

On 06/13/2014 04:41 AM, Bill Cox wrote:
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There seems to be some discussion in different FOSS crypto projects
about the value of a hidden secondary volume.  I've never used one,
and don't plan to (just try to prove otherwise!).  Here's a list of
countries, including Canada, the UK, and Australia, who have given
themselves the right to force you to decrypt TrueCrypt volumes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_law#Legislation_by_nation

At least in the US, the Fifth Amendment still has some life, unlike
the Fourth.  I think hidden volumes support the right not to
incriminate yourself.

Bill

I have never been served with any warrant such as an NSL, I have no
gag order of any kind, and am not under any sort of compulsion related
to the CipherShed project.
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