But it might make attackers' lives harder, which is all security measures can ultimately do. One thing that isn't clear to me why was this brought up. I'm sure it's important (otherwise Bill wouldn't have mentioned it), but I've just missed why (maybe I missed the preamble from other forums that have discusses this issue the very same thing, so maybe a quick summary would be helpful?). Regarding its relevant to our project, does TrueCrypt currently support multiple hidden volumes? If so, would keeping them in our project be a massive pain? If TC does not currently support them, I suppose it would be particularly hard to implement? Alain -----Original Message----- From: ciphershed-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ciphershed-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of PID0 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 10:08 To: ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ciphershed] Re: Plausible deniablility and hidden volumes It's a matter of degrees, an encrypted volume will protect your naughty files from mommy dearest, an encrypted drive will protect you from your garden variety theif or hacker, neither (whether hidden or not) are going to protect you against the MIB. On 13/06/2014 15:04, Kyle Marek wrote: > On 06/13/2014 09:53 AM, PID0 wrote: >> Hidden containers >> have a utility that's perfectly true, but lets not drive ourselves mad >> trying to turn CipherShed into a silver bullet for all the worlds >> privacy woes... > Well to be fair the only thing that even had to do with privacy was the > porn thing and that was a joke, but other than that I agree; There's > little to no use with multiple "hidden" volumes. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > At the time of sending this message, I have not been contacted by > any government official or worker regarding my participation in > CipherShed or any related project. I have not been asked to supply any > information to them that may be used to impersonate me nor have I been > asked to aid the government or it's officials or workers in modifying > part of CipherShed or any related project. I am not aware of any of my > property or anything regarding me being bugged, searched, or compromised > in any way. Anything that accepts PGP encryption or signing should have > been cryptographically secured with my PGP key. > -- -- At the time of writing, no warrants have been served to me, nor am I under any legal compulsion concerning the CipherShed project. I do not know of any searches of seizures of my assets.