-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Actually I have experienced the UK NHS, Canadian OHIP, Australian Medicare, and now US Medicare. NONE of them are anywhere near flawless. However IMHO ALL of them beat the best US private insurance (Motorola Executive coverage)! Both in cost and level of service provided. I know the UK's favorite pastime is criticizing the NHS, usually with justification. The difference is that the flaws get fixed in a reasonable time if only because there is ONE plan and it is very hard to pretend it is someone else's problem (although the politicians DO try), unlike the hodge podge of US "private" schemes and government shutdowns to feed someone's ego. Even the government run schemes are highly fragmented as the present Veterans Administration scandal shows. One of their problems is that the "veterans" insurance is completely separate from the DOD Tri-Care for active duty military! Their computers don't even talk to one another, which is a large part of the problem. For some reason the US Congress (only) plan works flawlessly! I got a briefing this afternoon from our US Representative Kyrsten Sinema, and it is an unholy mess, far worse than has been announced so far There should be some major revaluations in the next couple of weeks and hopefully some actual firings of high level officials. Revelations like like some 100,000 veterans nationwide waiting more than 6 months for an appointment, some have waited more than 5 years for urgent things things like PTSD treatment and combat related brain damage! While I am wandering far from the Ciphershed topics, let me put out a call for references to high quality articles and academic papers (Kyrsten has a PhD) on the Net Neutrality issue. Kyrsten asked me to put together an information packet for her that she could circulate among other members of the US Congress! I am particularly interested in the "conflict of interest" issue (largely ignored by the media); that is ALL of the giant US ISPs are really in the business of providing entertainment and/or landline voice phone service and view High Speed Internet service as competition to their "real" business! Can we document this? This conflict of interest resonates with the politicians and is far more impressive to them than a technical explanation of the consequences of favoring one source over another! I can't guarantee results, but I CAN promise that good quality stuff will be read by those who can make a difference. Mike On 06/07/2014 06:44 PM, PID0 wrote: > You would if you had sampled the NHS in the UK, ah the joys of > theft...err I mean socialized medicine. - -- "Ayn Rand - Philosopher in Chief to the intellectually bankrupt" - - Sherlock Holmes This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTk/hiAAoJEBsFFEeyMjwSMeUH/R9QVZhjT/vhYPNsOoPradlg Pc42eapTBUC5xFBghuK78WmB59uDcFNThvP1uUC/VgmX0OTsT4p3ftmbwx2n+RNZ eB1LEvFBnLwwqGSFrFBCi03q//nQV9+TKQQx4FQPvQglaSrQBmZ/58uklkLGDeQ8 ZEu3dyWAsGMCkkffBLqFnsF9gKBXZ8KoJx0bLhAHx4BeqgRFPtkLrn8yy0P+xA49 c7vS8fGrGzuOtkvKUA+kx6lPlQRyy4lKEToQ3b9s/aGxSIy2kb9CXzSDWCFd3tDq Egchhl9wW8o6XvSpYpiVz9jVyBCyj0vgK6sxh5OOVJ2vSuTWzKOOJq/2M5mp6oU= =lSt+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----