Oh God! He's already been served a secret warrant!! Damn, the MIB does NOT mess around. (I joke, but...perhaps it's not that farfetched of a possibly :-s) Alain -----Original Message----- From: ciphershed-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ciphershed-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Niklas Lemcke - ??? Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 08:32 To: ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ciphershed] Re: CipherShed non-profit Bill: what happened to your signature & warrant canary? On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 06:13:11 -0400 Bill Cox <waywardgeek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > There has been discussion about becoming a non-profit organization. > Here in the US, legally, we already are: > > http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-an-unincorporated-nonprofit-association.html > > "But, if the purpose for the association is to benefit the public some > way, and does not include earning a profit, the association’s members > have formed an unincorporated nonprofit association. People form > nonprofit unincorporated associations all the time; often without being > aware of it. For example, if you and several of your neighbors get > together to help raise funds to keep your local library branch open, > you’ve formed an unincorporated nonprofit association." > > Basically, whether or not we call ourselves a non-profit, legally that's > just what we are here in the US. Should we incorporate inorder to > protect ourselves from personal liability? If that were important, I > would expect lawyers to do it when they form non-profits. What form of > non-profit would lawyers choose? Until very recently, the American Bar > Association was an unincorporated non-profit! Here is a list of some > unincorporated non-profits in North Carolina: > > http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corporations/nonincprofit.aspx > > There is a right time to incorporate. Most people choose to incorporate > too soon, thinking that they gain some sort of legal protection. The > protections from incorporating are a lot less than most people think, > and doing it wrong carries considerable liability on it's own. > > Bill > -- Niklas At the time of writing, no warrants have ever been served to me, Niklas Lemcke, nor am I under any personal legal compulsion concerning the CipherShed project. I do not know of any searches or seizures of my assets.