• From: "Randall W. Ruble" <randallruble@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Randall W. Ruble" <randallruble@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:59:39 -0500







Since I sent this posting out I have had several emails and phone calls on


I have heard from local legislatures, prosecutors and law officer as well as
fire and EMS personnel hailing the possibilities of this new product.
{Another great product made right here in Illinois.} This could have the
biggest impact on deterring Meth production and use yet. You could easily
tell a METH PINKIE from a non user. There would be no hiding from the light
[blacklight that is]. Imagine what a night club with black lights all over
would look like with all of the Pink Meth heads.


The possibility of the use of this becoming mandatory looks like it might be
a no brainier for next session. Our Governor has expressed his concern over
the Meth situation and has favored anti Meth legislation. This is such
minimal cost to add to the product and would not burden the farmers with a
high additional cost to them for the end product. The farmers out there are
also at risk, from their tanks being tampered with, connections being left
loose, filled containers being left behind, etc. Have you ever seen a
anhydrous hose break loose from the tank, it is not pretty.


Cost verses the benefits of this product have no comparison. Let your
legislatures know how you feel on making this mandatory usage.


I was questioned about this showing up under black light and needing
electricity for the light, so I checked things a little further. I'm a Union
Refrigeration Pipefitter by trade. The Refrigeration business has been using
Fluorescent Leak Detection for almost a decade now. This is where a
fluorescent dye is injected into the refrigeration system and a blacklight
is used to look for where this dye leaks out. I went to the Johnstone
catalog and found several detection products. They range from a complete
110volt kit with a case for appox. $430, to two different portable
rechargeable flashlight type detectors that ranged from appox. $185 to $282.
I then went to the local Johnstone Supply store here in Springfield to check
out other possibilities. In talking with store manager Mr. Tim Filbert he
had a new detector to show me. This was the best product yet. It is a small
flashlight type, about the size of a mini mag light with its own belt
holster. It uses the new LED bulb technology [five high output LEDs rated at
1000,000 hours and two AA batteries]. The best part, it only cost around
$70, this makes it pretty well in the price range for every department and
agency out there. Responders could carry this right with them to check out
any thing suspicious right on the spot.


So much for my thoughts. I did the leg work, now it is up to all of us to
push to get this into the end product for our own protection.






Randall W. Ruble


Twin Pike Mutual Aid Association


Pittsfield Fire Department

State Certified FFII

624 North Dutton 

Pittsfield, IL 62363

CELL 217-370-1051

FAX 303-736-7079





I just received an update on this.


All you need to detect this is a normal black light. This can be purchased
as cheap as $10 to $30 at most local stores. 


I have emailed my local legislatures that this would be great for us out
here on the front line to make it mandatory.

I received a response back from US Rep John Shimkus office that this product
came from their area and that they helped to get this project done.


The Meth problem worsens and places too many emergency personnel in the line
of danger [RE: walking into a scene of a possible Haz Mat contamination or
fire & explosion] when you think it is only a minor incident. We need all
the help we can get out here. 

The small volunteer departments are at the greatest risk. These people who
make the Meth even have mobile labs set up in the trunks of their cars and
are moving from area to area to avoid detection as well using abandoned
barns and farm houses. In the rural areas we need to start considering
everything a worst case scenario when we approach even a car fire. 

You need to exercise extreme caution picking up even an innocent looking
thermos or beverage cooler from the side of the road or at a scene. They are
transporting anhydrous in anything they can. 


This is no different than pointing a loaded gun at a first responder. The
results are the same.


Be safe and be aware out there.






Randall W. Ruble


Twin Pike Mutual Aid Association


Pittsfield Fire Department

State Certified FFII

624 North Dutton 

Pittsfield, IL 62363

CELL 217-370-1051

FAX  303-736-7079




[Sun Sep 12 2004]

SOUTHERN ILLINOIS -- Methamphetamine manufacturers may soon find themselves
in the pink or looking for a new way to manufacture the illicit drug. 

On Wednes- day, GloTell hits the market. It's an additive that turns
anhydrous ammonia -- a key ingredient in meth manufact- ure of the "Nazi"
method -- a bright, glowing pink. 

The GloTell product will be mass distributed by Royster Clark, which will
target the retail market. The additive will cost about $9 per ton of
anhydrous ammonia. 

The product initially was developed in Southern Illinois, facilitated by
researchers at Southern Illinois University Carbondale. It is
non-carcinogenic, non-toxic and environmentally friendly, according to
GloTell promotional literature. It is being marketed as an "anhydrous theft

A side benefit is that the bright pink color, visible only when the
anhydrous hits the atmosphere, can also show when there is a leak in the
tank or hoses. 

The pink color lasts through the meth making process, not only turning the
end product pink, but also staining the noses of those who snort it, and the
injection sites of those who shoot it. Additionally, the meth made with pink
anhydrous is said to be inferior to the meth made with untreated anhydrous. 

"This is going to change meth production methods," said Tom McNamara, former
director of the Southern Illinois Enforcement Group and now its special
projects coordinator. "It will reduce the use of meth because it will be
harder to produce meth." 

McNamara said he expects the theft of anhydrous used to make meth will
decrease. While there are other methods of making the drug, the anhydrous
method results in the most pure meth. 

McNamara said anhydrous meth is up to 90 percent pure while meth made with
the red phosphorous method is only about 35 percent pure. In addition, it
takes about six hours to make meth with red phosphorous, compared to the two
hours needed for the anhydrous "Nazi" method. 

"This is not going to stop the meth -- it's going to change it and make it
less available," McNamara said, noting the easy and cheap availability of
the drug is one of the factors that has caused its explosive spread in rural
areas, including Southern Illinois. 

"I have seen the product used," he said. "It is not at all a natural color.
No meth user is going to want to glow pink." 

According to the state police, the anhydrous method accounts for 95 percent
of meth production in Illinois, with the red phosphorous method making up
the other 5 percent. 

Scott Mulford, a spokesman for the Illinois Attorney General's office, said
it is too early to tell how the GloTell additive may affect prosecution of
meth cases. It will partly depend, he said, on how much the product is used.

"I imagine that by a year from now, we will have a better sense of how
GloTell is impacting the serious problems and challenges associated with the
production and abuse of meth," he said. 

Clarence Oldham, former owner of Oldham Bros. Fertilizer and Propane in
Shawneetown, said he has already used the product during its testing phases.
He said if he finds GloTell effective at keeping away anhydrous thieves,
he'll continue to use it. 

Oldham said theft detection can be difficult because thieves stealing
anhydrous for making meth typically don't take a lot at any one time. In
fact, Oldham said he usually knows they were there because they leave their
hoses attached to the valves. 

Oldham said he has reason to suspect that meth manufacture is actually
taking place on site. He said along with hoses attached to his tanks, he
often finds empty containers and glass bowls and jars. 

"We put up a light to discourage them, and they've moved as close as they
can to the light, I guess so they can see better. I think if we shut off the
light, they wouldn't be able to see to make their meth right there," he

Oldham said he estimates anhydrous thieves visit him between four and eight
times a month. One of his biggest concerns is what would happen if they left
the valves open and caused a serious anhydrous leak. 

Tom Gibbs, the owner of Gibbs Fertilizer Corp. in Harrisburg, said he plans
to use the additive, especially if "everyone else does." He said he would
hate to become an easy mark by not using a deterrent that is widely

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