[CIAM-F6-Working_Group] Re: Back to work
- From: "Mark Stockton" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ciam-f6-wg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:43:28 +0200
I must say that a man on man F3B style distance task would certainly be a
spectacle. However a score board with live lap counter would be important as
well as a good commentator otherwise the spectators would loose the plot
quickly.
Much better idea than the speed task which tends to be a launch height and
good air lottery.
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From: Oleg Golovidov <oleg.golovidov@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ciam-f6-wg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:21:11 -0400
Subject: [CIAM-F6-Working_Group] Re: Back to work
> 5x2min is a good task, but I agree that it may not be very attractive
> to the public. For that matter, most of the soaring tasks are not
> very attractive or entertaining :-( A very good commentary can make
> a huge difference here for the spectators.
>
> I like very much the idea of using F3B tasks for hand launch. I
> remember Richard's comments about the speed task (specialized models
> with thin airfoils), but I think it can be done and it can be very
> exciting. If the duration task is left at least in the preliminary
> rounds, and it is required that the same models be used for all
> tasks, I do not see any need for a radical change in model design to
> be able to fly speed and/or distance tasks in the finals. Ballast is
> already used in hand launch models to enable higher wind
> penetration. If the course is made such that one cannot simply dive
> throughout the speed task but has to glide a significant distance,
> then in fact no changes in the model design are needed. Same for the
> distance task. A good penetration and L/D is already a requirement
> for a good HL model. The equipment for F3B contests already exists
> and can be borrowed from a club that has previously run a large F3B
> contest (European or World championship, or just a large F3B event
> in Europe). Such equipment can be shipped out and back for the WAG
> at a reasonable expense. Much cheaper than developing a new timing
> system with PDAs and wireless communication. Although the latter
> (PDAs and wireless communication) can help also with F3B tasks and
> as far as I know has been already used in F3J contests (instant
> relay of all flight times to the central computer for scoring).
>
> This will have a great appeal to those HL pilots throughout the
> world, who also fly F3B, or may even attract some pure F3B pilots to
> participate in the WAG.
>
> The speed task as flown in F3B is generally not a fair task due to
> the fact that each pilot flies by himself, and the conditions can be
> very different from one pilot to the next. But the distance task is
> absolutely fair and is VERY demanding and tactical. Several pilots
> (up to 4 or more with proper equipment and manpower) can fly the distance
> task simultaneously. The results of the distance task are immediately
> obvious and ties are not likely, although possible of course.
>
> Anyway, before I take too much of everybody's time, let's see what
> y'all think about using the F3B distance task for the finals. Can be
> flown in 2-3 groups, then the best 3-6 pilots fly in one group to
> determine the winner. The working times and all other details of
> course must be adjusted for HL models.
>
> Oleg.
>
> PS. I just realized the one of the strongest arguments against my
> idea is that it requires a very different set of skills than what
> all "regular" HL pilots are used to.
>
> > Well, we are still at the beginning of the road anyway. Any more idea about
> > the 5x2 or a version of it to replace the knock-out finals ?
>
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> Oleg Golovidov
> Raleigh, NC
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