[CIAM-F6-Working_Group] Re: AeroMusicals experience at World Games 2013

  • From: Martin Müller <cap21@xxxxxx>
  • To: ciam-f6-wg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 14:33:44 +0100

Hello Guy,

I have to apologize there was not so much response from me last time. 
Stephanie and I we just are building a new business. We help a company to build 
up a international net with distributors . 
Totally different story compare to what i have done until now. But I really 
love this work because it is a very unique company and we can work together;) 
We want to have our main income with this thing a.s.a.p. so we have to focus a 
little bit on that:). Because of this we won´t do to much in modelflying the 
next 14 months!

You still do a great job for our passion! Keep it up! I would like to support 
you as much as I can. 

About your questions; 
I agree in any points. Even I am a little confused. Did we not already had a 
electronic scoring system at the 2009 WAG?

Best regards,

Am 26.10.2013 um 21:35 schrieb Guy Revel:

> Dear all,
> As some of you know, I led a small team of two AeroMusicals pilots at the 
> World Games in Cali, Colombia, July 27-August 4. Pilots were Alan Goljevscek 
> from Slovenia and Andres Leoni from Spain. A third (USA) pilot was to come, 
> but failed to respond at the time of buying the flight tickets. If you don't 
> know, the World Games are the second largest multi-sports event after the 
> Olympic Games, featuring only non olympic sports. This year it meant 
> approximately 4,200 competitors from 120 countries, 31 official sports plus 5 
> invited sports. 
> AeroMusicals was flown as a demo sport, sharing a hall with Jiu-Jitsu and 
> Wushu/Kung fu. The aim was to provide a world-wide exposition to our sport 
> (spectators and TV) and it was a great success with obvious spectators 
> acclaim (about 3,000 spectators every day in the hall) and an incredible 
> number of TV interviews, both live and recorded. The ultimate goal is to have 
> AeroMusicals included in the list of World Games official sports, probably 
> not in 2017 (the World Games take place every 4 years) but at the following 
> one.
> What did I learn in Colombia, watching the AeroMusicals demos and a number of 
> other sports ?
> - One thing for sure : a competitive sport is, for the participants, a 
> genuine competition where the best should be the winner and, for the 
> spectators, a proper entertainment in which the progress of the action is 
> easy to follow and understand. If you think at many other sports, you will 
> notice a common point : there is a running commentary which contributes to 
> the interest build up. In other words, there should never be a moment of 
> silence. In most model clubs there is at least one member who enjoys spending 
> the day at the microphone during model shows, but this never happens at 
> competitions where it would be much more profitable promoting aeromodelling 
> as a sport. 
> Now I have a question : Should a commentator be mentioned in the F6 
> competition rules ?
> - Watching a number of competition sports based on scoring by judges, you 
> will notice that for the most parts, if not every time, the scores are 
> reduced to 10 (the ideal score) with two or three decimals. It makes it much 
> easier for spectators to understand and follow the proceedings. For Artistic 
> Aerobatics (F6A) and AeroMusicals (F6B) I propose to reduce the scores (at 
> each round) to 10. That is, keeping the present scoring to 60 points per 
> judge, then dividing the total score by 18 (if 3 judges) or 30 (if 5 judges) 
> to obtain the actual displayed score.
> Do you agree with this proposal ?
> - Finally, scoring could be a little bit more elaborate, there should not be 
> any difficulty nowadays to set up a proper scoring software. At competitions 
> such as World Games or World Air Games, there is (or will be) an electronic 
> system t-o compute and display the scores. So in my mind a proper system 
> should be made of two parts (with the proper interface) : an electronic 
> system to input the individual scores (a software running on smartphones or 
> tablets should be ideal) and a computing system collecting the scores from 
> each judge and displaying the computed results.
> In view of the World Air Games 2015 it appears necessary that an electronic 
> scoring system be in place and operational. This means, at the very least, 
> that such a system must be included in the rules, so a proposal is necessary 
> to be voted upon at the next (April 11th & 12th, 2014) CIAM Plenary and the 
> proposal sent before November 15th. We will leave until soon the actual 
> definition of a suitable electronic scoring system. For now, we only need to 
> have this possibility in the rules.
> Do you agree writing in the F6A & F6B rules that an electronic scoring system 
> (to be approved by the F6 Working Group and, ultimately, by CIAM) may be used 
> in place of writing the scores by hand ?
> Do you agree that, in such a case, fractions of points may be used ?
> This is "just in case" to let everything open until we define a proper 
> electronic scoring system. This will be discussed in my next message.
> Please give me your opinion, answer clearly to the four questions and reply 
> Regards,
> Guy R.
> PS:
> Latest communication from FAI:
> 107th FAI General Conference
> The sessions of the 107th FAI General Conference were held in Royale Chulan 
> Hotel in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, on 4 and 5 October 2013. 
> IWGA The World Games 2013
> The World Games 2013 in Cali, Colombia, were a significant success for the 
> FAI, as three sports featured at the programme (parachuting canopy piloting, 
> paragliding accuracy and indoor aeromodelling as a demonstration sport). All 
> tickets for the airsports events were sold out for all four competition days. 
> FAI World Air Games
> Several options are being examined for the location of the 2015 FAI World Air 
> Games, and discussions with potential host cities are still ongoing. A 
> decision is expected to be made by the FAI Executive Board in December 2013.

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