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  • From: "PLandsberger" <pedro.landsberger@xxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:21:02 -0400

El atículo de Ferguson puede ser muy entretenido y provocador, y puede ayudar a 
primera vista a manejar y entender procesos históricos complejos; pero 
lamentablemente descansa sobre una larga lista de supuestos 
histórico-ideológicos que de partida justifican el desarrollo que tuvo la 
Historia hasta el día de hoy y por esa vía justifican también el statu-quo.  Es 
decir, justifican el sistema actual.  Pues todas esas historias sobre las 
virtudes y supremacías de la cultura europea/norteamericana en el fondo son 
unos mitos cuidadosamente cultivados por los propios interesados y que nosotros 
en gran medida reproducimos porque nacimos, crecimos y vivimos dentro de esa 
cultura.  Esto que afirmo lo he reflexionado después de largas lecturas de 
autores que no aparecen en las listas de best-sellers ni en los comentarios de 
libros de los días domingos. Y si ferguson basa su análisis en este tipo de 
premisas, necesariamente los resultados a los que llegará y las tesis y 
alternativas que visualizará serán erradas, y de poco nos servirán.  Pienso que 
una buena selección de autores que destruyen gran parte de las premisas del 
artículo de Ferguson son los siguientes:

1) J.M. Blaut, geográfo/historiador de EEUU que estudió a fondo el problema 
ideológico y cultural de Europa/USA en el desarrollo de la historiografía 
mundial.  Su principal obra: "The Colonizer's Model of the World: Geographical 
Diffusionism and Eurocentric History" (adjunto Comentarios al respecto)

2) Mike Davis; varias obras, varias en castellano; la más atingente es  Late 
Victorian Holocausts, El Niño Famines and the Making of the Third World (New 
York: Verso, 2001). Hay edición en castellano.

3) Alfred Crosby; varias obras; la principal:  "Imperialismo Ecológico - La 
expansión biológica de Europa, 900-1900".

4) John Bellamy Foster; varias obras y artículos, muchos en castellano.  (Estoy 
adjuntando algunos)

5) Sidney W. Mintz: "Sweetness AND POWER".  Estudia a fondo la fenomenal 
importancia del azúcar tanto en los afanes coloniales de las potencias 
europeas, como en la vital alimentación del ejército de obreros que permitió 
que despegara la revolución industrial en Europa. (Adjunto algunas reseñas y 
menciones.  Además, el libro electrónico puede -al parecer- bajarse de varios 
sitios web)

6) Domenico Losurdo; filósofo italiano con varios textos de interés, pero el 
que viene a cuento ahora es "Contrahistoria del Liberalismo" (editorial El 
Viejo Topo, 2005) donde este señor "indaga en las contradicciones y las zonas 
de sombra que corrientemente eluden los estudiosos" poniendo de manifiesto la 
dificultad de conciliar la defensa teórica que hacen ciertos reconocidos 
personeros del pensamiento y el gobierno liberal moderno europeo/norteamericano 
de la libertad del individuo con la realidad de las relaciones políticas y 
sociales.   (Adjunto reseña).

Saludos

P.

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  hay 6 videos en internet que son notables (en ingles con subtitulos en ingles)



    From: Carlos Contreras <clubcientifico@xxxxxxxxx>
    To: chilefuturo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 9:49 AM
    Subject: [chilefuturo] Fwd: Western Civilisation: Decline – or Fall? - John 
Mauldin's Outside the Box E-Letter

    en inglés, lo bueno viene en el artículo de Fergusson. Ahora me ha 
interesado la historia. No se sisirve para estimar el futuro pero es 
entretenida a mi edad.saludos 
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          Western Civilisation: Decline – or Fall? 
          John Mauldin | March 5, 2012 
          I had my nose in Niall Ferguson's newest book, Civilization: The West 
and the Rest, at every possible moment during my recent trip to Hong Kong and 
Singapore. It's powerful and very, very timely, and I strongly recommend it. To 
help get the word out, I asked Niall for a short, somewhat personal piece on 
the thinking behind the book – in other words, what moved him to write it?
          What you're going to find in the piece below for this week's Outside 
the Box, as well as in the book, is an author who is very concerned about our 
civilization's prospects – and unafraid to say so. I mean, the last time I 
looked, "saving the world" had gone distinctly out of fashion. And then, and 
then, we all grow up and get pretty focused and incremental about things: if we 
can just address the problem or three right in front of us, we're reasonably 
content. 
          But leave it to a Harvard history professor to break out of the box 
and go tilting at the big picture. And when you think of it, we're all pretty 
concerned at this point, however we frame the issues. Everywhere we turn, it 
seems, we find the forces of polarization and dissolution gnawing at our social 
fabric, and Yeats' fateful line about the center not holding starts to feel 
uncomfortably prophetic. Maybe it's about time we all thought bigger and worked 
harder at getting along, while we still can. 
          Niall turns to a notion put forth by the social scientist Charles 
Murray, who has called for a "civic great awakening" – a return to the original 
values of the American republic. We could do worse.
          I want to congratulate Niall and Ayaan on their new baby, Thomas 
Hirsi Ferguson! May he grow up in a world that is flourishing.
          Your holding out hope for our future analyst,
          John Mauldin, Editor
          Outside the Box
          JohnMauldin@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Western Civilisation: Decline – or Fall? 
          By Niall Ferguson
          As a freshman historian at Oxford back in 1982, I was required to 
read Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. Ever since that 
first encounter with the greatest of all historians, I have pondered the 
question whether or not the modern West could succumb to degenerative 
tendencies similar to the ones described so vividly by Gibbon. My most recent 
book, Civilization: The West and the Rest attempts an answer to that question. 
          The good news is that I do not believe that Western civilization is 
in some kind of gradual, inexorable decline. In my view, civilizations do not 
rise, fall, and then gently decline, as inevitably and predictably as the four 
seasons or the seven ages of man. History is not one smooth, parabolic curve 
after another. The bad news is that its shape is more like an exponentially 
steepening slope that quite suddenly drops off like a cliff. 
          To see what I mean, pay a visit to Machu Picchu, the lost city of the 
Incas. In 1530 the Incas were the masters of all they surveyed from the heights 
of the Peruvian Andes. Within less than a decade, foreign invaders with horses, 
gunpowder, and lethal diseases had smashed their empire to smithereens. Today 
tourists gawp at the ruins that remain. 
          The notion that civilizations do not decline but collapse inspired 
the anthropologist Jared Diamond's 2005 book, Collapse. But Diamond focused, 
fashionably, on man-made environmental disasters as the causes of collapse. As 
a historian, I take a broader view. My point is that when you look back on the 
history of past civilizations, a striking feature is the speed with which most 
of them collapsed, regardless of the cause. 
          The Roman Empire did not decline and fall over a millennium, as 
Gibbon's monumental work seemed to suggest. It collapsed within a few decades 
in the early fifth century, tipped over the edge of chaos by barbarian invaders 
and internal divisions. In the space of a generation, the vast imperial 
metropolis of Rome fell into disrepair, the aqueducts broken, the splendid 
marketplaces deserted. The Ming dynasty's rule in China also fell apart with 
extraordinary speed in the mid–17th century, succumbing to internal strife and 
external invasion. Again, the transition from equipoise to anarchy took little 
more than a decade.
          A more recent and familiar example of precipitous decline is, of 
course, the collapse of the Soviet Union. And, if you still doubt that collapse 
comes suddenly, just think of how the postcolonial dictatorships of North 
Africa and the Middle East imploded this year. Twelve months ago, Messrs. Ben 
Ali, Mubarak, and Gaddafi seemed secure in their gaudy palaces. Here yesterday, 
gone today. 
          What all these collapsed powers have in common is that the complex 
social systems that underpinned them suddenly ceased to function. One minute 
rulers had legitimacy in the eyes of their people; the next they did not. This 
process is a familiar one to students of financial markets. Even as I write, it 
is far from clear that the European Monetary Union can be salvaged from the 
dramatic collapse of confidence in the fiscal policies of its peripheral member 
states. In the realm of power, as in the domain of the bond vigilantes, you are 
fine until you are not fine—and when you're not fine, you are suddenly in a 
terrifying death spiral.
          The West first surged ahead of the Rest after about 1500 thanks to a 
series of institutional innovations that (to entice younger readers) I call the 
"killer applications":
          1.Competition. Europe was politically fragmented into multiple 
monarchies and republics, which were in turn internally divided into competing 
corporate entities, among them the ancestors of modern business corporations.
          2.The Scientific Revolution. All the major 17th-century breakthroughs 
in mathematics, astronomy, physics, chemistry, and biology happened in Western 
Europe.
          3.The Rule of Law and Representative Government. An optimal system of 
social and political order emerged in the English-speaking world, based on 
private-property rights and the representation of property owners in elected 
legislatures.
          4.Modern Medicine. Nearly all the major 19th- and 20th-century 
breakthroughs in health care were made by Western Europeans and North Americans.
          5.The Consumer Society. The Industrial Revolution took place where 
there was both a supply of productivity-enhancing technologies and a demand for 
more, better, and cheaper goods, beginning with cotton garments.
          6.The Work Ethic. Westerners were the first people in the world to 
combine more extensive and intensive labor with higher savings rates, 
permitting sustained capital accumulation.
          For hundreds of years, these killer apps were essentially monopolized 
by Europeans and their cousins who settled in North America and Australasia. 
They are the best explanation for what economic historians call "the great 
divergence": the astonishing gap that arose between Western standards of living 
and those in the rest of the world. In 1500 the average Chinese was richer than 
the average North American. By the late 1970s the American was more than 20 
times richer than the Chinese. 
          Westerners not only grew richer than "Resterners." They grew taller, 
healthier, and longer-lived. They also grew more powerful. By the early 20th 
century, just a dozen Western empires—including the United States—controlled 58 
percent of the world's land surface and population, and a staggering 74 percent 
of the global economy. 
          Beginning with Japan, however, one non-Western society after another 
has worked out that these apps can be downloaded and installed in non-Western 
operating systems. That explains about half the catching up that we have 
witnessed in our lifetimes, especially since the onset of economic reforms in 
China in 1978.
          I am not one of those people filled with angst at the thought of a 
world in which the average American is no longer vastly richer than the average 
Chinese. I welcome the escape of hundreds of millions of Asians from poverty, 
not to mention the improvements we are seeing in South America and parts of 
Africa. But there is a second, more insidious cause of the "great 
reconvergence," which I do deplore—and that is the tendency of Western 
societies to delete their own killer apps. 
          Who's got the work ethic now? The average South Korean works about 39 
percent more hours per week than the average American. The school year in South 
Korea is 220 days long, compared with 180 days in the U.S. And you do not have 
to spend too long at any major U.S. university to know which students really 
drive themselves: the Asians and Asian-Americans. The consumer society? 26 of 
the 30 biggest shopping malls in the world are now in emerging markets, mostly 
in Asia. Modern medicine? As a share of gross domestic product, the United 
States spends twice what Japan spends on health care and more than three times 
what China spends. Yet life expectancy in the U.S. has risen from 70 to 78 in 
the past 50 years, compared with leaps from 68 to 83 in Japan and from 43 to 73 
in China. 
          The rule of law? For a real eye-opener, take a look at the latest 
World Economic Forum (WEF) Executive Opinion Survey. On no fewer than 15 of 16 
different issues relating to property rights and governance, the United States 
fares worse than Hong Kong. Indeed, the U.S. makes the global top 20 in only 
one area: investor protection. On every other count, its reputation is 
shockingly bad. The U.S. ranks 86th in the world for the costs imposed on 
business by organized crime, 50th for public trust in the ethics of 
politicians, 42nd for various forms of bribery, and 40th for standards of 
auditing and financial reporting.
          What about science? U.S.-based scientists continue to walk off with 
plenty of Nobel Prizes each year. But Nobel winners are old men. The future 
belongs not to them but to today's teenagers. Here is another striking 
statistic. Every three years the Organization of Economic Cooperation and 
Development's Program for International Student Assessment tests the 
educational attainment of 15-year-olds around the world. The latest data on 
"mathematical literacy" reveal that the gap between the world leaders—the 
students of Shanghai and Singapore—and their American counterparts is now as 
big as the gap between U.S. kids and teenagers in Albania and Tunisia.
          The late, lamented Steve Jobs convinced Americans that the future 
would be "Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China." Yet statistics 
from the World Intellectual Property Organization show that already more 
patents originate in Japan than in the U.S., that South Korea overtook Germany 
to take third place in 2005, and that China has just overtaken Germany too. 
          Finally, there's competition, the original killer app that sent the 
fragmented West down a completely different path from monolithic imperial 
China. The WEF has conducted a comprehensive Global Competitiveness survey 
every year since 1979. Since the current methodology was adopted in 2004, the 
United States' average competitiveness score has fallen from 5.82 to 5.43, one 
of the steepest declines among developed economies. China's score, meanwhile, 
has leapt up from 4.29 to 4.90. 
          Not only is the U.S. less competitive abroad. Perhaps more disturbing 
is the decline of meaningful competition at home, as the social mobility of the 
postwar era has given way to an extraordinary social polarization. You do not 
have to be an Occupy Wall Street activist to believe that the American 
super-rich elite—the 1 percent that collects 20 percent of the income—has 
become dangerously divorced from the rest of society, especially from the 
underclass at the bottom of the income distribution.
          But if we are headed toward collapse, what will it look like? An 
upsurge in civil unrest and crime, as happened in the 1970s? A loss of faith on 
the part of investors and a sudden Greek-style leap in government borrowing 
costs? How about a spike of violence in the Middle East, from Iraq to 
Afghanistan, as insurgents capitalize on our troop withdrawals? Or a paralyzing 
cyberattack from the rising Asian superpower we complacently underrate? 
          Is there anything we can do to prevent such disasters? Social 
scientist Charles Murray calls for a "civic great awakening"—a return to the 
original values of the American republic. He has a point. Far more than in 
Europe, most Americans remain instinctively loyal to the killer applications of 
Western ascendancy, from competition all the way through to the work ethic. 
They know the country has the right software. They just cannot understand why 
it is running so damn slowly. 
          What we need to do is to delete the viruses that have crept into our 
system: the anticompetitive quasi monopolies that blight everything from 
banking to public education; the politically correct pseudosciences and soft 
subjects that deflect good students away from hard science; the lobbyists who 
subvert the rule of law for the sake of the special interests they represent—to 
say nothing of our crazily dysfunctional system of health care, our 
overleveraged personal finances, and our newfound unemployment ethic. 
          Then we need to download the updates that are running more 
successfully in other countries, from Finland to New Zealand, from Denmark to 
Hong Kong, from Singapore to Sweden. And finally we need to reboot our whole 
system.
          Voters and politicians alike dare not postpone the big reboot. If 
what we are risking is not decline but downright collapse, then the time frame 
may even be tighter than one election cycle. 
          Copyright 2012 John Mauldin. All Rights Reserved. 
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