I got the PIC16F628A and 20 MHz crystal yesterday so I programmed it with Sean's original code and tried some dumps, it did not work better than the 4Mhz PIC16C84 did, it actually worked even worse. The loose PCB:s that only released the code from one of the PSU:s didn't dump anything... I'll try some adjustments in the code later this week and see if I can work it out, as the games play all right it must be possible to get the data out of them. -- __________________________________ * Fairchild Channel F collector extraordinaire * http://go.to/channelf - The Gallery of Channel F