[chai-t] Re: February meeting plans

  • From: Alex.Thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: chai-t@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:11:34 +1100

Hi William,

Maybe could you address the alternatives to components other than just the
database engine (eg Reporting Services, Integration Services, Analysis
Services, MDM, DQS).

Thanks,

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Hi Peter,

I think this would be a good topic for a future meeting!

I have not really come across people buying MySQL or PostgreSQL enterprise
support, mostly because it seems to be people using them for non-critical
systems or otherwise as part of an application where the application team
manages the DBA work associated with the database.

For instance, Business Objects comes bundled with MySQL and it can be used
as the report and job repository, and they would support it if we ran into
problems (I think). I set up a PostgreSQL server on Linux last year for an
application for one of our research teams and developed some scripts to do
automated backups, etc. I've done similar things for MySQL on Linux, but
less on Windows.

To me, there is no great advantage to the "enterprise support" aspect of
software licensing for SQL Server / Windows Server: you still end up
needing your own IT support people to be DBAs and system administrators, so
why not teach them MySQL and PostgreSQL and Linux and pay nothing in
licensing? Presumably there's a workforce aspect to consider and perhaps a
familiarity aspect, but most of these environments include some kind of GUI
development environment now anyway.

I am happy to coordinate a session showing off some of the management tools
and comparing and contrasting MySQL, PostgreSQL and SQL Server from a
developer perspective. Given how closely most of us end up managing our own
infrastructure, it probably doesn't matter whether that aligns to an
enterprise standard as much.

Kind regards,

William Rose
Business Intelligence Manager
Information Management

+61 3 9656 5231   |   Level 8, St Andrews Place, East Melbourne VIC 3002

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From: chai-t-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:chai-t-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of DAVEY, Peter
Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2013 10:34 AM
To: chai-t@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [chai-t] Re: February meeting plans

William,
An idea perhaps for a discussion at a future meeting.  Last week our  IT
people were telling us about the changes to MS licencing and SS 2012 in
particular and it wasn’t pretty.  It led me to wonder about the feasibility
of using MySQL or PostgreSQL in organisations like ours and how they could
work in a BI environment.   The Enterprise version of MySQL costs money but
I haven’t been able to find out much about the licencing details and
PostgreSQL appears to be free.  Does anybody know much about this area?

Cheers
Peter Davey | Manager
Clinical Information Analysis & Reporting | Austin Health
PO Box 5555 Heidelberg Vic 3084
ph. +61 3 9496 5517 | fax. +61 3 9496 5856
email. peter.davey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | www.austin.org.au


From: chai-t-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:chai-t-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rose William
Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2013 08:55
To: chai-t@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [chai-t] February meeting plans

Hi all,

I think most of you have been forwarded the invitation from Stefan Romiti
at Microsoft to the event they are hosting on Thursday 21/02/2013 from 2:30
to 5pm, at their Southbank office.

The topic is Tabular & PowerPivot - Analysis Services.

We will not be meeting otherwise this month (e.g. not this Friday), so I
hope to see you there next week!

Kind regards,

William Rose
Business Intelligence Manager
Information Management

+61 3 9656 5231   |   Level 8, St Andrews Place, East Melbourne VIC 3002

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