Hi Committee Members, Here is where I am so far: I talked with Jim Hubbell today. What I said was: 1. The Committee is not ready to review a contract like Ilisa submitted at this time. 2. What we would like to have is a more detailed drawing of the plan for the Monument and your fee for providing that drawing. He: No problem. I have actually already drawn up something in more detail. The bench is only a small part of this design. Me: Do you think we can we have the drawing by Sep 25th? He: I think that will be fine. 3. We would also like to have your permission to make prints of your rendering, mat them, have you sign them and then sell them as part of the fund raising effort for the Monument. He: That's fine. 4. Later, probably after the event, we (the Committee) will address the construction details and work out an agreement for the execution of the design. Jim is going to talk with Ilisa about this. I didn't get a fee commitment from Jim during this conversation Joan Embry: I talked with her husband, Duane, at length on Thursday. He was going to talk with Joan about it and ask her to get back to me. Today I called again and got the answering machine. I left a message and my number. No response yet. County Parks: They are on it. Cailin, the Park employee who lived here in 2003, is taking the invitation to have a table/display at the event to the right people. Should work Natural History Museum: I have not connected yet. Will try again on Monday. QUESTION: What about offering Silverwood Wildlife Sanctuary (Audubon) the opportunity to have a table at the event? Ingrid _____ From: cedarfirememorialsteeringgroup-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cedarfirememorialsteeringgroup-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Younger Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:05 PM To: cedarfirememorialsteeringgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [cedarfirememorialsteeringgroup] Message from Sandra regarding "historic" and "historical" I'm not sure either "historic" or "historical" is the right word. "Historic" means something of lasting significance . The fire itself for instance was historic, but the monument isn't. Historical means something old, and the monument is new. Here's more explanation on that: http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/historic-versus-historic= <http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/historic-versus-historic =al?page=3Dall> al?page=3Dall "Monument," on the other hand is a perfect word for our purposes. * * *Merriam-Webster: a** **(1)* *:* a lasting evidence, reminder, or example of someone or something notable or great *(2)* *:* a distinguished person *b* *:* a memorial stone or a building erected in remembrance of a person or event. Wikipedia: "A *monument* is a type of structure either explicitly created to commemorate a person or important event or which has become important to a social group as a part of their remembrance of historic times or cultural heritage." So why not simply the Cedar Fire Monument? Sandra