In a message dated 02-05-05 03:05:53 EDT, you write: << Actually this is a very ambitious project that we are working on that will be freely given out to people as a direct competitor to M$S. Out "InterCruise HL" project is meant to take the best parts of Windows, Linux, and MAC to offer a complete homogeneous OS from which the user can run any (or just about any) existing application from these platforms transparently. Basically they will be able to install their application and run it with out the need to worry which platform it was written for. InterCruise HL also offers transparent clustering and filesystem encryption. All of which can easily be configured to meet the users needs. We were looking at Calmira as the possible GUI to the OS and are looking to get the look/feel of Windows 2000 or XP as the base for the desktop and taskbar. We could then build the extra applications and we also are looking to include Microsofts own free IE5.5 or IE6 along with many other great pieces. Our goal is to combat MS in the same way that they beat out Netscape. "The hunter now becomes the hunted!!!" Cheers, Lonnie >> Lonnie, Although a "noble endeavor", I'm afraid you're riding a dead horse...Sun said the same thing about Java back in 1994 or so. While some advancements have came about in Java, the goal of supplanting MS on the desktop has not. Also, Netscape lost because of Netscape...they insisted on utilizing very proprietary "standards" that only worked in NS. Ultimately, AOL did more to cause the extinction of NS than MS...they bought it and then placed it almost off the stove top, not even on the back burner. It should be noted that there are other, similar crusades underway that are also not considered serious threat to MS's hold on desktop users. But, if someone wants to beat themselves up and waste 10 or 15 years, I'm not going to tell them they can't...in fact, I wish you good luck. However, sometimes it is better to use something that is available instead of re-inventing the wheel so you can claim a better cart. ;-) See you later! Glenn -- To unsubscribe, send a message to listar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit http://freelists.dhs.org