>Subject: <CT> Re: News for Opera users! >>Good News: Opera is no longer shareware! =20 >The bad news is worse than you describe; the banner-adware setup comes = via=20 >the Cydoor system, implicated in several spyware programs (nothing gets=20 >alt.comp.freeware going more than a whiff of spyware...). These programs= =20 >allegedly don't just phone home, but are capable of passing=20 >demographic/system/site-visiting details, etc, to commercial sites -=20 >something the developers always deny, however. I like the caution - "implicated" & "allegedly" :o) I doubt these companies would even attempt to challenge anyone who gave a more definitive answer. >We'll see what happens. Opera's claim is that the adware is removed in=20 >registered versions. I only seem to remember the advert.dll based system for 16bit adware progs. Were there more? =46or 32bit Adware detection at least: Ad-aware - http://www.lavasoft.de OptOut - http://grc.com/optout.htm OptOut is Steve Gibson's program and his web site is interesting to read if only for his trials and tribulations. I seem to remember that half of this Adware software does not even remove the engine or tidy up the registry even after its host is deinstalled so I doubt very much that 'registering' will do anything of the kind. Its also pretty well proven these days that the adware companies lie about the type of data that is being returned. It maybe that Steve Gibson has now changed his OptOut software as ironically the version I have promotes Opera as an alternate browser... it will look a bit odd promoting adware when his program obviously allows you to get rid of it.:o)) I think the term 'spyware' is far more honest. Pete To unsubscribe, send a message to listar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit http://freelists.dhs.org