OK, it got long..I broke it into headings 1. XWin 2. Redhat/linux 3. DOS 4. ... 1. Xwindows is not just Linux product, it's a standard product for several OS's including *nix's. It's a terminal replacement for people who wanted more than text on their mainframe. It also happens to run fine on my PC under Linux. Most X11 window managers just give you a resize border and a popup desktop menu that allows you to control running programs or run programs from a list in a file (like start.ini under calmira) Some do more, some people don't use one. (no borders, no menu's?????) 2. I'm running RedHat5.2 which is easier to install than win95 but not quite as obvious as win98. Linux is miles from being a minix clone, and AFAIK, minix source wasn't available when Torvald wrote the linux kernel (which was based on the '386 architecture). 3. As far as the DOS bashing going on, there's nothing really unstable about DOS, M$ just did a bad job of building on top of it, that's all. In NT they started over (kinda) and did a better job. DOS itself is a very nice little operating system, but true to its roots -- Q-DOS ie. Quick & Dirty Operating System (did you think 'D' stood for Disk?) It was good for manufacturers to get a machine up and running overnight in order to test their products, but they weren't supposed to subject unsuspecting civilians to it. I hear macOS X is a *nix!! >Do I win a prize? >-- Erwin Dokter Yes, sure, you win a free lollipop, just send $5.00 S&H. -Changa .-+=, o o > `--' ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. To unsubscribe, send a message to listar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit http://freelists.dhs.org